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 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:48 pm
I was just wondering if anyone thinks that just one Church is the only "right" Church. Or do you think that as long as you are Christian that you are doing what is right? Many people believe that their is only one Church that hold the truth, while some believe that just simply being Christian is enough. Do you believe that there is only one True Chruch?
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:31 pm
No I do not think there is one true church...I don't believe that any one church knows everything, and in my opinion it is arrogance when they say that they do. Those that hold to that belief are in effect saying that they are superior to all others........and that is PRIDE! (we all know that Satan was thrown out of heaven for that!) We all (Christians) need each other because each of us holds a piece of the truth.
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:08 pm
All true Christians make up the one church, the body of Christ. It's not a building, but all of us. Even if we might have minor differences of beliefs/opinions on things.
God is Truth, not any of us.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:40 am
This question is funny because it's one of the reasons why there are over 33,000 different Protestant denominations. ninja It's also suspicious because you and your ex-boyfriend just laid out your story about his religious conversion. With him being Eastern Orthodox, he would most assuredly believe that his Church is the "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church;" and the Eastern Orthodox Church is very well known for believing that they are the one true Church that Christ founded 2,000 years ago. Is there any correlation between this thread and those controversies? question
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:57 am
mike_johnson ...believing that they are the one true Church that Christ founded 2,000 years ago. Is there any correlation between this thread and those controversies? question Mike, nobody doubts that you're reasonably intelligent. I have to say, though, by bringing this up ... you tried for your Wisdom check, and the dice cracked. Fail. Sig, it's like the others have said. Many religious organizations claim to be the "One True Church" ... and the vast majority of them (once you start looking at what they teach) aren't even Christian. So any time I hear the phrase "One True Church", I get suspicious. BUT ... I don't believe that just "being a Christian" is enough, either. Now, before anyone starts flaming me over that, hear me out! Too many people think "being a Christian" just means going to church. Big deal! I have no doubt that Hell will contain quite a few Methodists, and Catholics, and Jews, and Episcopalians, and Orthodoxies, and so forth. It has nothing to do with being Protestant, or Orthodox, or Catholic, or whatever. It has to do with Jesus being your only Lord, your only Savior. Not "just one of many great teachers" ... the only Great Teacher. Not "the inspiration for all these other people we're going to study and emulate instead of Him" ... He's the one to emulate. If you depend on man-made ritual, just because some schmuck says "we've always done it this way" ... well, Jesus wasn't too fond of the traditionalist Pharisees, was he? If you depend on the writings about others, things that came after Jesus ... remember that you're dealing with the traditions of men, and what they believe to be important. There is a "One True Church", definitely. But it's nothing to do with human organizations, and there's only one Priest: Jesus Christ. Any human organization that claims to be the "One True Church" ... is lying.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:32 am
Dragonbait There is a "One True Church", definitely. But it's nothing to do with human organizations, and there's only one Priest: Jesus Christ. Any human organization that claims to be the "One True Church" ... is lying. wow...well said.. in my opinion,-- just as you believe that hell will contain quite a few methodists, catholics, jews, etc.-- i also do believe that many people who haven't even heard of Christ (tribal people living in some unknown, secluded mountain areas for example) will be saved... because of the law that God has written in our hearts..(don't know exactly which part of the Bible is it) if they didn't even heard of Jesus Christ but still continues to live a life which pleases God (i'm not saying that they passed God's standards or anything, none of us did) then i believe that God has a way of judging them..and they are saved...but that's just my opinion though... but setting that aside, as for me, there is NO one true church in the sense of denominational claims and they should really be careful of what they are claiming...i would also become suspicious if one organization claims that they are..well... "The One"... i believe that this "One True Church" thingy just means that even if you're a baptist, a methodist, pentecostal, or whatever sect you are in, as long as you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Saviour and you have a personal relationship with Him, then you belong in "One" universal church...(and yes, Jesus Christ is the High Priest) Jesus' church...nothing to do with any man made sect or denominations...which by the way differ in some rituals and doctrines...because men, no matter how intelligent they are, has very limited understanding compared to God's infinite wisdom..and even if you follow all rituals and memorized the whole doctrine of your church, without accepting Christ, you are still headed to eternal doom...
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:04 am
Aishin Mikomi in my opinion,-- just as you believe that hell will contain quite a few methodists, catholics, jews, etc.-- i also do believe that many people who haven't even heard of Christ (tribal people living in some unknown, secluded mountain areas for example) will be saved... because of the law that God has written in our hearts..(don't know exactly which part of the Bible is it) if they didn't even heard of Jesus Christ but still continues to live a life which pleases God (i'm not saying that they passed God's standards or anything, none of us did) then i believe that God has a way of judging them..and they are saved...but that's just my opinion though... Right you are to point that out, and I agree that there'll be a few people who'd never heard of Christ there ... but blest if I can find where that's written in the Bible. Might be that that's just something someone came up with because it sounds good, with no actual scripture to back it up ... but I could have sworn I'd read it in the New Testament someplace.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:28 pm
mike_johnson This question is funny because it's one of the reasons why there are over 33,000 different Protestant denominations. ninja It's also suspicious because you and your ex-boyfriend just laid out your story about his religious conversion. With him being Eastern Orthodox, he would most assuredly believe that his Church is the "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church;" and the Eastern Orthodox Church is very well known for believing that they are the one true Church that Christ founded 2,000 years ago. Is there any correlation between this thread and those controversies? question There is no correlation, I was just wanting to know other people's oppinions.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:30 pm
Dragonbait mike_johnson ...believing that they are the one true Church that Christ founded 2,000 years ago. Is there any correlation between this thread and those controversies? question Mike, nobody doubts that you're reasonably intelligent. I have to say, though, by bringing this up ... you tried for your Wisdom check, and the dice cracked. Fail. Sig, it's like the others have said. Many religious organizations claim to be the "One True Church" ... and the vast majority of them (once you start looking at what they teach) aren't even Christian. So any time I hear the phrase "One True Church", I get suspicious. BUT ... I don't believe that just "being a Christian" is enough, either. Now, before anyone starts flaming me over that, hear me out! Too many people think "being a Christian" just means going to church. Big deal! I have no doubt that Hell will contain quite a few Methodists, and Catholics, and Jews, and Episcopalians, and Orthodoxies, and so forth. It has nothing to do with being Protestant, or Orthodox, or Catholic, or whatever. It has to do with Jesus being your only Lord, your only Savior. Not "just one of many great teachers" ... the only Great Teacher. Not "the inspiration for all these other people we're going to study and emulate instead of Him" ... He's the one to emulate. If you depend on man-made ritual, just because some schmuck says "we've always done it this way" ... well, Jesus wasn't too fond of the traditionalist Pharisees, was he? If you depend on the writings about others, things that came after Jesus ... remember that you're dealing with the traditions of men, and what they believe to be important. There is a "One True Church", definitely. But it's nothing to do with human organizations, and there's only one Priest: Jesus Christ. Any human organization that claims to be the "One True Church" ... is lying.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:42 pm
sigtar_gimp mike_johnson This question is funny because it's one of the reasons why there are over 33,000 different Protestant denominations. ninja It's also suspicious because you and your ex-boyfriend just laid out your story about his religious conversion. With him being Eastern Orthodox, he would most assuredly believe that his Church is the "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church;" and the Eastern Orthodox Church is very well known for believing that they are the one true Church that Christ founded 2,000 years ago. Is there any correlation between this thread and those controversies? question There is no correlation, I was just wanting to know other people's oppinions.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:51 am
sigtar_gimp I was just wondering if anyone thinks that just one Church is the only "right" Church. Or do you think that as long as you are Christian that you are doing what is right? Many people believe that their is only one Church that hold the truth, while some believe that just simply being Christian is enough. Do you believe that there is only one True Chruch?
Yes, because there is only ONE TRUE CHRISTIAN.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:20 am
LoveComes-From-LittleDove sigtar_gimp I was just wondering if anyone thinks that just one Church is the only "right" Church. Or do you think that as long as you are Christian that you are doing what is right? Many people believe that their is only one Church that hold the truth, while some believe that just simply being Christian is enough. Do you believe that there is only one True Chruch?
Yes, because there is only ONE TRUE CHRISTIAN.
Could you explain your logic, there, Dove? Are you saying that on the entire planet, and throughout the past two millenia, there's only one person who truly qualifies as a follower of Jesus? 'Cause that's what it looks like.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:17 pm
I think she means that either a person is Christian or they're not. Not that there is just one person in the whole world.
Which would go back to the idea that humans create denominations, not so much God. We might have our own interpretations of things, but either we're Christian or we're not based on if we have Christ in us or not.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:15 pm
Dragonbait LoveComes-From-LittleDove sigtar_gimp I was just wondering if anyone thinks that just one Church is the only "right" Church. Or do you think that as long as you are Christian that you are doing what is right? Many people believe that their is only one Church that hold the truth, while some believe that just simply being Christian is enough. Do you believe that there is only one True Chruch?
Yes, because there is only ONE TRUE CHRISTIAN.
Could you explain your logic, there, Dove? Are you saying that on the entire planet, and throughout the past two millenia, there's only one person who truly qualifies as a follower of Jesus? 'Cause that's what it looks like. Maybe she's referring to Christ? confused
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:36 am
mike_johnson Dragonbait LoveComes-From-LittleDove sigtar_gimp I was just wondering if anyone thinks that just one Church is the only "right" Church. Or do you think that as long as you are Christian that you are doing what is right? Many people believe that their is only one Church that hold the truth, while some believe that just simply being Christian is enough. Do you believe that there is only one True Chruch?
Yes, because there is only ONE TRUE CHRISTIAN.
Could you explain your logic, there, Dove? Are you saying that on the entire planet, and throughout the past two millenia, there's only one person who truly qualifies as a follower of Jesus? 'Cause that's what it looks like. Maybe she's referring to Christ? confused
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