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havishanta

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:34 am


Well, anyone who has been watching the "Yusuke's Birthday" topic has seen that we've gotten a little...off-topic. For those of you unfamiliar, the Myer-Briggs Type Indicator is a sort of personality test. For more information, head this way!

Returning, WyndiWingfall and I thought it would be an interesting experiment and a powerful asset to take this quiz as a particular Yu Yu Hakusho character would. This would help viewers and fanfiction writers alike when it comes to understanding the characters. One of our major antagonists in this quest, however, would be, as WyndiWingfall mentioned, different interpretations of each character. I suggested that we make this a collaborative effort, thus hopefully avoiding this problem and coming to a common ground on the characters, however, I urge each person to do this as well on their own time with their own interpretations as well as the guild-wise, so to speak.

Now as to the location of this magical psycho-analysis, I've found one of facebook, in all truth, which is where I took mine, which actually, I've found, is not the genuine test, but one that uses Myer-Briggs ideals in determining your Big Five personality. (INFP! <3 Update!: I'm actually ENFP! UPDATE!)

Anywho, this is the link for the test I took. I've found it's EXTREMELY accurate and encourage it for our use. If anyone has any other links they would like to use, your links are welcome. I'm afraid you'll need a facebook for mine.

Feel free to post your own results with your personal interpretations of the characters, just make sure you post and explanation as well, for those who are unfamiliar with the system. : )

Happy quiz-taking! <3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:17 am


Further Explanation(NOTE: ALL THESE EXAMPLES ARE TAKEN FROM MY OWN RESULTS):

In the "My Personality" app on facebook, you may take a quiz of a default 100 questions (though you have the option to take more if you want. I've found by 100, I'm done) which will ask you to access the given statement by "Very Inaccurate," "Moderately Inaccurate," "Neither Accurate nor Inaccurate," "Moderately Accurate," or "Very Accurate." After answering the questions, you will be given an assessment based on five categories: openness, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism (or emotional stability). These categories are further explained and your percentage of each is analyzed, each conclusion followed by a "Reflective Question" to ask yourself in order to stimulate cognitive thought towards yourself and the world.
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Afterwards, you are given a Jungian Type Estimate, which is where the Myer-Briggs Type Indicator comes into play.

Example 3
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Each letter can also be clicked for a further explanation of each trait.
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Finally, this personality indicator attempts to match you to various things, such as an ideal college major or US state. This is the only one I've found inaccuracy in. : )
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:49 am


Although I'd like to jump right in, my time online will be rather limited for the next week due to my hectic work schedule. As it is, I'd like to provide a few hopefully useful links.

My MBTI site of choice is usually MyPersonality.info. [Note that unlike havishanta's, MyPersonality does not rely on pinpointing your Big Five personality first, as the Big Five are usually not used in a typical MBTI.] Not only is it very thorough, but your result page will also give you several reliable sites to help you explore your personality type further.

Also, as you can see below [using my own results as an example], the site gives percentages for each trait, which might turn out to be useful for those characters who seem to straddle the middle line for certain pairs of traits.

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[Please ignore the Multiple Intelligences test results - that is another test entirely.]

Aside from taking the test in the mindset of a certain character, you can take the opposite approach. [However, this should be done after you've taken the test for said character to avoid any bias.] In short, you would read through each of the sixteen types' personality profiles to determine which one seems to best fit the character. Of course, this will also be affected by our individual interpretations - but hey, that's why this thread exists.

The following are a few sites I've found to be very detailed regarding personality types. They might be hard to get through [especially if you are not too fond of reading], but they are very useful in helping to familiarize people with each type. Once again, this should be done after you've taken the test for a character.

~TypeLogic: A fairly standard Jungian profiles page. It also provides links for each specific type to help people connect to others with the same personality.

~The Personality Page: My absolute favorite site for personality profiles. It provides lengthy descriptions of each personality, how each personality fares in relationships [I think this might be the most interesting aspect for some people], career suggestions, and personal growth pages.

~Personalitydesk: A more concise website with brief descriptions of each type.

~similarminds: A site with a wide variety of different personality inventories [enneagrams, Big Five], its personality descriptions are mainly lists of one-word traits, making it easy to quickly get a sense of each type.

EDIT: The test that havishanta posted labeled me as an INTJ, although I've always gotten INTP. Hm.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:01 pm


This sounds like fun. I have another link to a similar type test; I believe this one was approved/recommended by my college psychology professor, but I could be mistaken.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

This one is a Jung-MBTI test, about 70 yes or no questions long.

I received INFJ, which I believe I usually get, although it's been a while since I've taken this test. I also got extremely moderate on nearly all the results, so if that tells you anything . . .

So, are you two suggesting that we all take tests as each character and then compare results, or go over each question individually and debate the various options (which could take forever, as that's over 400 questions depending on which test we take) or just discuss the characters' personalities based on these tests?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:50 am


The first one. I think we're aiming to decide on one overall personality type for each character - sort of like the combination of all the results each character will get, a mergery of all the different interpretations of said character.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:02 am


Hahaha, well, at least we're attempting this monster during the summer. ^^;

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:58 pm


So, we'll start with Yusuke? It's probably important that we all take the same test, so whichever one you guys want to use is cool with me. I realize we'd get better results with more people (because then we could just average the answers) but the guild has been dead lately, so it's likely just going to be us three or four. V.V
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:42 pm


I love the Myers-Briggs too, especially when combined with the Keirsey Temperaments. I've also seen a list of spirituality types to go with it.

I've seen a Death Note version where the characters are shown with a description for each type. For example, I'm either ISTJ or ISFJ which includes Naomi Misora and Captain Yagami.

Do you think there might already be a version for YYH? I'm not sure I feel up to the task of guessing what they are myself. sweatdrop I've made guesses with family members who haven't taken it, and I did it by going through each of the letters. Introvert, or Extrovert? Do they see the world in a tangible sense, or do they go with gut feelings? Do they decide logically (Kurama), or are they more concerned with how people feel (Kuwabara)?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:10 pm


Okay, my brother took your link to the Big Five test, and it didn't get him nearly as well as the real Myers-Briggs. Its way too short, and its too easy to edit in your opinions/perceptions of yourself rather than reality.

I recommend the real test if you can take it (colleges pay the fee for students) or a shorter online version.

Anyway, I'm intrigued by the challege to figure out the YYH characters, and I'm going to give it a shot. ^_^
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:26 pm


My brother (Culedhel) and I made our attempt to guess the Myers-Briggs types of the main quartet:

Yusuke ENFJ Teacher
Kuwabara ENFP Champion
Kurama ISTP Crafter
Hiei ISTJ Inspector

Do you guys think we matched them correctly? (I'm planning to post our logic below.)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:54 pm


When my brother and I tried to figure out their types, we decided the best way to tackle it was to work them out letter by letter.

First: Extraversion (E)/Introversion (I)

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People who prefer extraversion draw energy from action: they tend to act, then reflect, then act further. If they are inactive, their motivation tends to decline. To rebuild their energy, extraverts need breaks from time spent in reflection.


This especially seems to describe Yusuke, and we thought maybe Kuwabara as well. "Act first think later" is definitely them.

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Conversely, those who prefer introversion expend energy through action: they prefer to reflect, then act, then reflect again. To rebuild their energy, introverts need quiet time alone, away from activity.


Kurama was clear from the first sentance, and Hiei definitely fit the second.

Second: Sensing (S)/Intuition (N)

This one was alot harder to figure out, especially given the extrasensory abilities of our four psychics, lol. So we tried to look at it as objectively as we could. When they are obtaining information, are they basing it on what they can learn from their senses or is it more based on gut feelings?

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Individuals who prefer sensing are more likely to trust information that is in the present, tangible and concrete: that is, information that can be understood by the five senses. They tend to distrust hunches, which seem to come "out of nowhere."[1]:2 They prefer to look for details and facts. For them, the meaning is in the data.


We were pretty sure Kurama and Hiei fit this, and Yusuke pretty much fits it too. They all have instinct that they listen to, but these three are much more likely to trust what they can see for themselves.

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On the other hand, those who prefer intuition tend to trust information that is more abstract or theoretical, that can be associated with other information (either remembered or discovered by seeking a wider context or pattern). They may be more interested in future possibilities. They tend to trust those flashes of insight that seem to bubble up from the unconscious mind. The meaning is in how the data relates to the pattern or theory.


Especially in the Dr. Ichigaki Team fight, I think its clear Kuwabara is an iNtuitive.

Yusuke goes with Kuwabara's feeling, but initially this is only out of trust in his friend, and later because he feels compassionate towards the enslaved students. He also focuses on reading his opponents ... so initally we were thinking he was an S, but on second thought, he is always going for the shot in the dark. My brother thinks he remembers Yusuke asking others to trust him, but the quote he gave me was Harry from HBP, lol. xd I do remember him saying "I just have a feeling" several times in the series. Ultimately, I think "Teacher" fits him better than "Provider" which is N over S.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:03 pm


Third: Thinking (T)/Feeling (F)

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Those who prefer thinking tend to decide things from a more detached standpoint, measuring the decision by what seems reasonable, logical, causal, consistent and matching a given set of rules.


Very Hiei and Kurama.

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Those who prefer feeling tend to come to decisions by associating or empathizing with the situation, looking at it 'from the inside' and weighing the situation to achieve, on balance, the greatest harmony, consensus and fit, considering the needs of the people involved.


Definitely Kuwabara, and Yusuke too. Yusuke may be a toughie but we all know how compassionate he is inside. whee

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Fourth: Judgment (J)/Perception (P)

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Myers and Briggs added another dimension to Jung's typological model by identifying that people also have a preference for using either the judging function (thinking or feeling) or their perceiving function (sensing or intuition) when relating to the outside world (extraversion).


This one was definitely the hardest to figure out. Hiei (Judging) and Kuwabara (Perceiving) was obvious, but we had a lot of trouble guessing Yusuke and Kurama. We finally took a stab based on the following:

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According to Myers, judging types like to "have matters settled" ... [and] perceptive types prefer to "keep decisions open."


So we guessed J for Yusuke and P for Kurama, and crossed our fingers. We think that the final outcomes matched up amazingly, though. ^_^

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:32 pm


That makes Yusuke and Kuwabara part of the Idealists group, Hiei a Guardian, and Kurama an Artisan.

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Artisans are observant and pragmatic. Seeking stimulation and virtuosity, they are concerned with making an impact. Their greatest strength is tactics. They excel at troubleshooting, agility, and the manipulation of tools, instruments, and equipment.

Guardians are observant and cooperative. Seeking security and belonging, they are concerned with responsibility and duty. Their greatest strength is logistics. They excel at organizing, facilitating, checking, and supporting.

Idealists are introspective and cooperative. Seeking meaning and significance, they are concerned with personal growth and finding their own unique identity. Their greatest strength is diplomacy. They excel at clarifying, individualizing, unifying, and inspiring.


I think their prayers on the spiritality site match them in really funny ways.

Yusuke: God, help me to do only what I can, and trust you for the rest. Do you mind putting that in writing?
Kuwabara: God, help me keep my mind on one th- LOOK! A BIRD! -ing at a time.
Kurama: God, help me to consider people's feelings, even if most of them are hypersensitive!
Hiei: God, help me to begin relaxing about little details tomorrow at 11:41.32 am.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:34 pm


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That makes Yusuke and Kuwabara part of the Idealists group, Hiei a Guardian, and Kurama an Artisan.

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Guardians are observant and cooperative. Seeking security and belonging, they are concerned with responsibility and duty. Their greatest strength is logistics. They excel at organizing, facilitating, checking, and supporting.


All of your analysis sounded good up until this point. I'm not sure that the description really fits Hiei, and I think the main thing is giving him a T rather than an F. Hiei's not really big on fluffy emotions like love and happiness and friendship, but he does let his emotions get in the way (at the very least in comparison to Kurama), although he preaches differently. For instance, he was so angry with Yusuke and hated him so much during their first fight that he bragged and did stupid things and eventually let himself get caught. Had he been cooler-headed, he might have realized that Yusuke had some sort of plan.

Also, this may just be me, but it seems like Hiei's more of an impulsive type; he seems to do things without thinking about them very much (such as running after Yukina when she was kidnapped by Tarukane, or saying "hot" when he expressly knew it was forbidden.) Hiei does seem to be naturally more intelligent than Kuwabara and Yusuke (though that's arguable,) but he definitely doesn't like to think things over a lot, especially not when compared to Kurama.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:23 pm


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That makes Yusuke and Kuwabara part of the Idealists group, Hiei a Guardian, and Kurama an Artisan.

Quote:
Guardians are observant and cooperative. Seeking security and belonging, they are concerned with responsibility and duty. Their greatest strength is logistics. They excel at organizing, facilitating, checking, and supporting.


All of your analysis sounded good up until this point. I'm not sure that the description really fits Hiei, and I think the main thing is giving him a T rather than an F. Hiei's not really big on fluffy emotions like love and happiness and friendship, but he does let his emotions get in the way (at the very least in comparison to Kurama), although he preaches differently. For instance, he was so angry with Yusuke and hated him so much during their first fight that he bragged and did stupid things and eventually let himself get caught. Had he been cooler-headed, he might have realized that Yusuke had some sort of plan.

Also, this may just be me, but it seems like Hiei's more of an impulsive type; he seems to do things without thinking about them very much (such as running after Yukina when she was kidnapped by Tarukane, or saying "hot" when he expressly knew it was forbidden.) Hiei does seem to be naturally more intelligent than Kuwabara and Yusuke (though that's arguable,) but he definitely doesn't like to think things over a lot, especially not when compared to Kurama.


Are you saying give him an F and not a T? confused I gave him ISTJ, not ISFJ (Inspector not Protector). I don't think the F suits him at all because he DOES NOT seek to help the downtrodden to get warm fuzzy feelings. whee

I think he's belligerent and quick to make decisions, but not impulsive. I think he said "hot" just to say "screw the rules, no human is going to boss me around." xd He also isn't really sure he believes in it.

The same applies to his fight with Yusuke, when he's so anti-human (based on his pro-Makai beliefs etc) that he underestimates him. (Not to mention this goes in line perfectly with the S designation over N ... he determines Yusuke is a certain level, and disregards any feeling that Yusuke might have a weird freaky almost illogical ability to grow power out of nowhere to save his precious people.)

Its also important to note that these personality descriptions don't include someone's IQ potential, troubled backgrounds, prejudices, emotions or fallibilities. They are just general personality maps, right? They only describe HOW a person thinks and therefore general patterns of what they are like because of that.

I also think saving Yukina is standard big brother/Guardian behavior ... I don't see any evidence that he didn't think about what he was going to do ... but really, if he is a good loving person in any capacity, how could he not go save her when he clearly had the ability?

What precisely do you think makes him not fit the Guardian Group?

As an Inspector, he's dependable, perservering, guardian of (Makai) tradition, practical, not seeking leadership but often given it ...
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The thought of dishonoring a contract would appall a person of this type. When they give their word, they give their honor.


The above, especially. Even his attitude regarding comrades relates to that, and from that his animosity towards Seiryu when he killed Byakko.

I don't get the sense of "fluffy" from that, or the "Guardian" grouping either. I think one might be, but caring for the dynamics of a group or society doesn't make one "soft."

Did I understand you? Please correct me otherwise. ^_^
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