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I found an article in POPSCI (formerly Popular Science) this morning which discusses the "Six Largest Climate Villains". According to the article, the most powerful opponents to the global warming theory/ efforts to stop global warming are:
1. The G20 Summit and China
2. James Inhofe
3. Pseudo-Academic Skeptics
4. Your TV weather personality
5. Big beef
6. You

How do feel about the theory of global warming? How do you feel about the people on this list? How do you feel about being included on this list?

I feel that any problem the government admits is an issue, you'll claim is a diversion tactic from the real problem.

I think it's all a crock of........greed.

I'm 56 years old. When I was a kid, things really WERE dirty. Pesticides like DDT were in common use, (I've been cropdusted!) and there was no regulation on what we called "smog." The river was dirty (yes, we went fishing there, and sometimes ate what we caught!), the lakes were dirty, there was trash on the highways, people burned their trash or took it to a city dump with no recycling.

Surprisingly, according to today's standards, we were very healthy. The worst disease I ever heard of was polio, and that's because we were vaccinated against it. Kids caught the measles and the chickenpox, and survived with a scar or two. I never knew ANYONE with asthma, autism, heart disease, high blood pressure, ADD, cancer-----I went to school with one boy who was a hemophiliac, one girl who was diabetic (and who survived the only case of meningitis I'd ever heard of with treatment at home), in twelve years of school. We ate meat---huge amounts of it! Grocery stores were little larger than a regular convenience store is now, with very little processed food, so people ate a much healthier diet, and eating out was a rare and special treat. Went barefooted, got cuts and scrapes and played in the dirt, ate what we caught from the lakes and rivers, had no air conditioning and gas floor heaters. We survived bike wrecks and pellet gun fights and all kinds of injuries without a panicked trip to the emergency room, although we did go through lots of butterfly bandages and iodine! People smoked, and drank, and lived a long time, as long as they ate well, got fresh air and exercise. The women looked wonderful as they aged, although sunscreen was unheard of, unless you count baby oil with iodine added. People went to church, were expected to be responsible and suffer the consequences if they weren't---in every area of their lives. Government didn't regulate everything. We were responsible for our own lives, and surprisingly, people did just fine.

We lived every waking hour in a "toxic soup," from the air we breathed to the water we swam in. The people were healthy, the animals were healthy, the plants were healthy.

The difference was diet, "fresh" air (lol, if you could find it!), sweating all summer long!, and an active lifestyle. And, dare I say it? COMMON SENSE.

The idea that carbon is the bad guy is ridiculous. It's a carbon-based planet! There are still proper uses for things like DDT and asbestos. It's all the chemical concoctions in virtually everything we eat, drink, and use today that is the culprit, healthwise. Add to that hours in front of the computer or the television, no direct sunlight (just take vitamin D, lol), recirculated air and stress everywhere, and you have unhealthy people. People who, I contend, would be a lot healthier and happier without most of the last 40 years' worth of "new and improved" everything and government regulation.

The planet is a lot cleaner than it was in the '60's. Resources are used more wisely, and that's great. I'm not advocating going back to all that filth. But regulating carbon? If that's the best they can do, that's pathetic! And it's IMPOSSIBLE. Think about that for a minute.......so, why all the pressure to regulate carbon?

Supposedly, all the green technology is aimed at keeping the planet cool, and clean, and healthier for everyone. Nope. It's aimed at making a select few people very wealthy, and regulating the lives of everyone else way past the point of being ridiculous. The record high temperatures here the past couple of weeks were set in 1954, the year I was born---112, 113, and 115. I've never seen temperatures anywhere near that in my adult life----if there's "global warming," I would expect to see things getting warmer, not cooler. Temperatures rise and fall, as do water levels. If something is dirty, you should clean it. Simple.

Common sense would go a long way toward making things better in lots of areas. Before that will happen though, people have to learn to think for themselves again, not just accept some "expert's" data and projections based upon that data.

There's a lot of deception, dishonesty, and manipulation in this world. Don't take anyone's word---or data---as the truth. Do your own reseach, and draw your own conclusions, in every area of your life. You'll know the truth when you see it, if you've done your homework.

There's my two-cents' worth. Now, I'm going to enjoy a magnificent thunderstorm! And think about ........ who knows what.
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LOL! Yes, they did, but not where I grew up (Tulsa, Oklahoma).

Probably didn't post this correctly, but if it works, I think you'll enjoy it.

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Then the part of my post that is most important to you is this:

There's a lot of deception, dishonesty, and manipulation in this world. Don't take anyone's word---or data---as the truth. Do your own reseach, and draw your own conclusions, in every area of your life. You'll know the truth when you see it, if you've done your homework.


Just like with your garden.

Carbon is locked by plants,w hen they shed their leaves. "anthropogenic" sources of carbon refer to carbon that is loosed into the atmosphere, and this state of being is not natural-- Not in the levels which are found on modern day earth.

Just because something is naturally found somewhere doesn't mean that it is in balance.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

The earth is a system of balances. They are clearly observable.

Link me proof of half of the things you claim in any post?

Trees die, or(more often) shed their leaves, and lock within them all the carbon they imbibe over a lifetime. Less readily available than the carbon in the air, some of this carbon is exhaled by fungi and microbes which break down the tree's biomass. What isn't broken down(A small part, but massive on an earth sized scale) is buried, and eventually compressed into our fossil fuels. Normally this carbon would only be reintroduced by tectonic movement and volcanic activity, which is normally countered by other forces.

See: Balance

By that logic... freeing the entire reservoir of underground carbon? See: Imbalance

These aren't hidden facts, nor are they shamanic folklore. They are things we learn, without bias, that are generally agreed upon, even by the most well bribed scientists(Their ramifications are, of course "Up for debate," as long as a few people want to be famous.)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=carbon+cycle

I did read your post. It was just nonsense. Google has always separated sponsored results from their normal ones.

I'm sure you think that wikipedia is run by the man too. Here's an article about PageRank (the algorithm google uses for their search engine) Which you will probably ignore.