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Intoxikace

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:44 pm


So what is up with all this 'invisible' food junk lately.

It's whole grain bread! But the grains are so ground up it looks white! They'll never know.
It's juice! But it has vegetables! They'll never know.
It's Smart KD! It tastes like normal KD.. but it's smart becasue there is cauliflower! They'll never know.

At first it was marketed towards picky children.. but now it's even aimed at adults.. if you guys watch tv you know what I'm talking about.. if not here's a link.

What do you guys think of this?
Personally.. I think it's stupid.. we are forgetting what food TASTES like.. we have to HIDE the flavours of nature to get all of our nutrients.
What's so bad about eating vegetables and whole grains that they have to be hidden?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:28 am


It seems like the vicious circle just got worse. Last generation's people got obsessed with processed and fast food with simple sugars. The one(s) before that were crazy about the newest cane sugar for their coffees, teas and cakes. This just seems to be the next step, particularly for the first world, and I would know from my background.

If you get exposed to white bread, sweets and simple-tasting food being treats in your childhood, it's more likely to carry on into adulthood. As kids, we were brought up thinking western spices were a godsend and heaped on as much ground black pepper as was palatable on food whenever we went to a posh restaurant that required you to eat with forks and knives.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:58 am


I think with some of these things, like having vegetables in fruit juice, it's more to get children to eat healthy, because a lot of kids don't like vegetables and whatnot.
For adults it's sort of silly, though. Maybe it's a way to ease people into eating healthy by making it seem like things they're already used to, so they don't feel out of their 'comfort zone' when it comes to food. That's the only logical explanation I can think of.
Other than that, hiding the fact that food is healthy is stupid. What reasonably minded person is going to get upset when they find out that the food they're enjoying is something that's GOOD for them?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:17 am


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It seems like the vicious circle just got worse. Last generation's people got obsessed with processed and fast food with simple sugars. The one(s) before that were crazy about the newest cane sugar for their coffees, teas and cakes. This just seems to be the next step, particularly for the first world, and I would know from my background.

If you get exposed to white bread, sweets and simple-tasting food being treats in your childhood, it's more likely to carry on into adulthood. As kids, we were brought up thinking western spices were a godsend and heaped on as much ground black pepper as was palatable on food whenever we went to a posh restaurant that required you to eat with forks and knives.
I spent my childhood eating mostly whitebread and all it's crappy variations. That just meant that when I tried real bread, it was better by contrast, and there's no going back.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:29 pm


I love fruits and veggies, no one needs to disguise them for me heart

If you expose your children from a young age to all different types of foods instead of your standard processed chicken nuggets, as they grow up they will appreciate a broader range of foods and there will be no need to hide them.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:46 pm


I hate the v8 commercials. I don't have cable but I see it all over the grocery shelves. It's a little scary how we have to convince the public to eat healthier.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:24 am


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I love fruits and veggies, no one needs to disguise them for me heart

If you expose your children from a young age to all different types of foods instead of your standard processed chicken nuggets, as they grow up they will appreciate a broader range of foods and there will be no need to hide them.


I totally agree--people were always alarmed at the things I let my kids eat when they were little, things like nori rolls and "ethnic" foods from all over the world, but now that they are almost teens, they are very good eaters and will try just about anything. My son actually prefers vegetables to fruit most of the time (although he is kind of strange that way)

I've never understood the notion that kids need to be sheltered from certain foods, even to the point of having special kids menus. On those rare time when we eat out, the kids have always been allowed to order from the regular menu.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:11 am


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I love fruits and veggies, no one needs to disguise them for me heart

If you expose your children from a young age to all different types of foods instead of your standard processed chicken nuggets, as they grow up they will appreciate a broader range of foods and there will be no need to hide them.

Can I just say that veggie nuggets taste the exact same as regular nuggets??
does anyone else find that odd? That's how processed chicken nuggets have become. I know veggie nuggets are still really processed, but still.
I eat somewhat healthy. I always eat vegetables and lots of grains and fruit.

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:54 pm


Growing up, we were fed the "white bread, HFCS drinks" stuff that 80's kids were all exposed to - WonderBread, Hi-C, processed this and that. As an adult, I initially found it difficult to eat real food. That has changed, though. I prefer real bread to the processed crap, I buy more fruits and veggies ( I avoid V8 like the plague) and generally, I eat better. The big shock has been my nieces/nephew. They are all terribly interested in what I do, so they all eat the same things I do when i'm around. Who knows? maybe the day will come when we can put some these artificial-food pushers out of business for good. I'm talking to you, Nestle....
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:20 pm


I grew up loving vegetables, probably because my mother didn't make a huge deal about me having to eat them. If I didn't like something I didn't like it, she never forced me to clean my plate, and she understood that kids aren't going to like every food in the world, do adults like everything? No! Kids aren't that much different. If your child doesn't like broccoli that doesn't mean that you have to grind it up and offer it to them in spaghetti sauce, find another vegetable and offer it to them!
She offered me healthy foods at every meal, fruit juice was an odd once in a while special occasion thing, and the closest thing we had to "junk" was chocolate milk powder and tortilla chips.. which were both like juice.. for special occasions, not everyday!

I really do think though that most of the "invisible" foods are marketed towards parents who are too lazy to just give their children a proper meal or too lazy to try giving their children different foods to see what they like.
Honestly if I have children one day maybe I will grab the special KD, or the v8.. but probably not.. it's easy enough to put some veggies on a plate. ;p

Oh yeah, here's another commercial that is about hiding the "vegetables"... like Chef Boyardee is going to be super nutritious.. it's horrible.. it's like I'm eating tomatoes which were simmered in sugar water with bleached pasta and some tasteless meat paste.. if people think that kids should be eating that on a daily basis.. they are stupid. x_x

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:11 am


I think that kids need to be taught nutrition way early on in school (heck, even by their parents) I don't mean to attack anyone's parenting skills, but... Oh wait, yes I do. If parents would feed their kids healthily in the first place, they wouldn't whine when having to eat anything other than sweets and salty crap all the time. I really feel sorry for all the obese kids in America, because in reality, its not their fault. Education is the means to reform-- trying to forcefully make kids eat healthier (like Michelle Obama and school lunches) and forcing them without them KNOWING is just going to add to the problem.

One thing I've noticed since eating all-natural foods without added sweeteners and whatnot, is that my taste buds have gotten more sensitive. "fruit" juice with 90% corn syrup tastes disgusting too me now, as do any sweets in general. My theory is that if kids weren't so exposed to all this sugary and refined crap, they wouldn't be thinking they need it all the time.

I understand that when it comes to kids, they have a few years where their variety of food possibilities isn't too large... I don't know the specifics, but if people think they can't feed, say, beef to a 1 or 2 year old, why do they think they should feed them snickers and other crap? If I talk anymore I'm just gonna ramble, so lemme shut up now rofl
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:58 am


One of the best arguments for growing your own food is having your children in the garden with you. We grew up with a huge 3-family garden in which we all shared the work and the harvest. We were always interested in what was growing, as children, and my own children were the same. I never brought a pea into the house, the kids (and Hubby) ate them right out in the yard---and countless times I would find the broccoli gone because they had eaten it out there. Both sons live away from home at this point, and one grows food in the basement, the other on a tiny apartment patio. It starts when you're little, if you're exposed to it, like everything else, this search for GOOD food.

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Intoxikace

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:19 pm


Parents are the reason why their kids are hooked on junk food, a kid throws a tantrum and won't eat broccoli because they just don't like how it tastes, so parents throw some chicken nuggets and french fries in the oven. Eventually the kids will always be eating prepackaged food because it's easier then exposing their children to other healthy foods out there. Then of course once the child has health issues and refuses to eat anything that isn't in a bright coloured package the parents blame commercials and mc.donalds instead of reflecting on what they did to influence their childrens eating habits. x_x

When I was a kid in school I'd see other kids eating lunchables and those packaged "fruit snacks", and of course I'd be jealous! I wanted to be able to make a little pizza and have some gummy candy things that look like dinosaurs, but my mother told me that they were bad for me, so I was sent to school with my healthy homemade lunch and sucked it up. As much as I wanted to eat the bad food back then, I'm so happy that my mother gave me healthy food from a young age, I rarely eat sweets, I love whole grain foods, I rarely eat prepackaged foods, eating healthy saves money, I love how it just comes naturally for me because of how I was raised. =]

I honestly hate the way food is now.
For example, I went to the store to look for popsicles with no sugar added, just fruit juice. But of course, everything was filled with HFCS, and the no sugar added stuff was filled with aspartame and other artificial sweetners.. it's horrible. D:
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:47 pm


I read in a book called "Natural Cures 'They' Don't Want You To Know About" that some foods are so horribly processed that they have to inject chemical flavouring to make a certain food taste like they're supposed to. That's like injecting a chemical to make your orange juice taste like orange juice! gonk

I am so thankful for my Mom for she made my lunch for me everyday until my final day of grade 12. A good majority of what she put in was homemade and raw food. And I never got to have those sugary cereals in the morning either. Oh, and whole wheat bread was all I ever ate! I remember the first and last time I ate white bread.

I am so thankful that my Mom stayed home and made sure we were well-fed.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:40 pm


Growing up I've always eaten hearty foods and starches mixed with some fruit and veggies in a good Roux. Many people like to think of this as an unhealthy diet, but I have certain ways of preparing my meals.

Oddly enough my mother was okay with me eating junk food but in moderation, but I would refuse and whipped out a slab of deer meat and start to thaw it. And I completely agree that healthy food is more affordable, you just gotta know where to find it, even though I live in a rural area you would be surprised at the lack of farmer's markets.
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