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Alastor Adonilm

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:45 am


Hmm I didn't feel like PMing people because I keep getting the run around every time I do. This place seems the place to go to about talking about problems, so I figured post here to get them out in the public. It seems to be the popular thing to do so why not.

So today I was looking at the EEW ONS card and two white flags popped up.
The first is the EEW Speeder Battle royale. From what it looks like they don't get anything for being in that match.
As Chrono so bluntly put it, its a ******** and its going to be filled with people who won't sell. I've observed that's how battle royales go. No need to drone on and on about this (mind you I could), I've said my point for this particular thing.


The second is this EEW Estremo title match between Matt Draven and Andrew Thorne. Isn't Thorne a Speeder? I was so sternly told that Speeders weren't allowed to go after main titles.

Now, I'm perfectly aware that those two share history, etc. That's fine, I can accept that but it seems to me that when two people request a match together they should get it right? Wrong. I requested a match with Chrono's Yuke character in EEW. It was accepted by her, so you'd think we'd be allowed to face one another right? Wrong. Now I wasn't the one that offered the title on the line, but quite frankly I don't see why it shouldn't be on the line. Now hold your horses before someone complains about the title situation. It's a 24/7 title meaning that anyone could win it if they pinned the current champion right?


It seems to me that the Estremo title has more prestige than it (The X-treme title) does since its not a 24/7 gimmick title. Yes I know it's supposed to be some title of the year or some s**t like that. But the Estremo title isn't a gimmicky title, X-treme is.
Now, I know I'm not inclined to have a title match in my debut because I'm supposed to 'Earn it'.
But let me ask you this
What kind of match would you rather see? A match where two people have planned this awesome match, or a match against two people where one of them is so adamant about not facing the other because he knows they suck. That he complains to everyone about it, but everyone seems to follow suit.
I'm not sure about you, but I'd rather see the awesome match


Freakshow88
...I'm being way too patient with this Atrocity dude in the WGUT tournament. ******** hard to work with. If you end up reading this, take my advice and give people a little elbow room in your matches. sweatdrop


Yuke of XV

HE SUCKS! Do you comprehend this? HE SUCKS AT ROLEPLAYING!
He cannot sell, cannot promo, cannot comprehend basic ring skills or ring presence. He also god mods.The best thing he ever did was that faction with Pyro, and that is saying a hell of a lot.


Yuke of XV

I wouldn't mind either if it was a one time thing. However in my case it isn't. I used to be crew and when you get people complaining to you time and time again about how they can't work with a person and you honor their request and they won't honor yours it kinda pisses me off.

When I was crew I didn't book people together because the members asked me not to, I respected that. You'd think I'd get the same courtesy.


Seems to me if he's that bad, why do that? Now me personally I requested that particular match to be a triple threat match. That way I get my feud with Yuke, and unfortunately for him he gets that match with Atrocity. It gets people to stop bitching. Plus if that wasn't enough all parties agreed to it. That's right even that Atrocity fellow. BUT That's not not good enough. For the lack of a better terms the EEW crew seems to be "a**l" as said by Chrono. They want a one on one match.


I guess what I'm trying to say is what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're going to make this match and not make good on the other than I'm calling bullshit. Because the excuse I keep getting is "Speeders aren't allowed to go after main titles" yet this one is? In hindsight I'm less of a rookie than this Thorne guy is. I was around longer than mostly all of you here, I just left because wrestling got to filled with politics and the way I see it, nothing has changed.

I was requested to come back, and was assured I'd have fun in storylines that weren't affected by wins, losses and being favorites of crew members.

Now, I may not agree with a lot of things Chrono does, but I will say this about him. He makes things interesting and he at least gives people a chance. Yes despite all of his complaining and drama he starts. He makes great storylines, and allows people to do their own stuff. If they don't have something he finds something for them.
Where EEW staff can only offer a meaningless battle royale that has NOTHING if you win. No contender shots, no anything. Just a steaming pile of elephant s**t.
I've been sitting there being asked to 'roll with it' , hmm let's see. One hand I get a chance, a chance to have fun and have awesome storylines. The other is a pile of s**t..

Hmm which one do you think I'm gonna roll with? I'll give you a hint,unless I'm throwing the s**t it back in someone's face like a monkey, I'm gonna take the other offer and have fun.


Now, I'm not blaming ALL of the EEW staff. Just a select few, I'm not going to point fingers, name names, but the ones to blame should know who they are.
Well anyways if you stuck around all this while and read everything, I appreciate it and hope this gets resolved.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:51 am


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:52 am


And so it begins ..
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:01 am


I'd like to thank that Draze fellow for at least trying to make things right. Maybe there's hope for you after all fella.

Alastor Adonilm


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:04 am


Okay, being that I run Speed, I will be giving something to the winner of the battle royal, and being that I will be overseeing the match I will make sure that things go well, and if I end the match, I will make the ending FAIR! Now onto the Morsis situation! I really NEVER Okayed that match, TO be honest, It should NOT happen. As of right now, I'm doing my best to give Matt Draven a better opponent, because, A: Morsis is on Speed, B: Morsis tried to get a couple things going WITHOUT my permission by going over my head after I told him "NO" the first time! So Yes, I understand how you feel, and I', doing my best to fix it!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:10 am


Draze666
Okay, being that I run Speed, I will be giving something to the winner of the battle royal, and being that I will be overseeing the match I will make sure that things go well, and if I end the match, I will make the ending FAIR! Now onto the Morsis situation! I really NEVER Okayed that match, TO be honest, It should NOT happen. As of right now, I'm doing my best to give Matt Draven a better opponent, because, A: Morsis is on Speed, B: Morsis tried to get a couple things going WITHOUT my permission by going over my head after I told him "NO" the first time! So Yes, I understand how you feel, and I', doing my best to fix it!


I'm not blaming you, I saw that you were trying to rectify the situation. However this was posted before the fact.

Alastor Adonilm


DankTectonics

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:46 am


I applaud you Golden Ambition, you are how you say, "the s**t."
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:06 am


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I applaud you Golden Ambition, you are how you say, "the s**t."

Thank you I guess.. lol

Alastor Adonilm


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:19 am


And here I thought you were a SOB.. But I applaud thee!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:38 am


Justin Amaze
And here I thought you were a SOB.. But I applaud thee!

Well, I stand firm in what I believe in, and that is to let the roleplayers have fun. If n00bs want to award themselves titles in their own guilds who cares? If I want to have a match with someone and that other accepts, who are you to tell us we can't?
If someone wants to play a real, as long as its acceptable in that guild than who cares? Roleplaying is a means to escape the hell hole we live in and play out a fantasy that few of us will never hope to accomplish in our lifetime. Some of us are playing characters that we could never hope to be or act in a way that we wouldn't normally act. But crap like this has to ruin it. For the most part all of you won't drop your egos and let s**t just happen. No its always gotta be this or this person's gotta win because he promised this, blah blah blah. No wonder most of the vets left.

For the record,
I for one am having the best match I've had in ages with Chrono, why? Because he's not telling me I have to do this, I have to do that or I can't do this because I'm this. He's letting me play my character the way it should be. I'd also like to point out that he put his titles on the line, I didn't ask for them I didn't demand them. He offered to help me out. So that win or lose I'll get credibility for my character.
Which is more than what I asked for.

Alastor Adonilm


Punkology

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:45 am


I agree completely. I'll admit I was one of the ones that said you needed to earn a title shot, but I also said that the match should be a triple threat. Why the staff decided otherwise, I dunno. But giving Morsis a shot instead of you is complete bullshit, you deserve a shot way more than he does. This whole 'Speeders can't go for main titles' bullshit is unheard of to me, so I'm guessing it either way in placed after I left the crew, or as of recent. Yet, they're giving a Speeder a mid-card match for a title? That's complete bullshit. Crew, you really need to rethink both matches.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:49 am


I thought that I could come back for a second, but this reminds me why I left at the first place. stare stare

I'm not the type to get involved in the arguing sessions, but this topic has been dragged for way too long and needs to be solved.

I was watching around lately and from what I could understand, the reason why your match with Yuke was cancelled was because it was a title match and no Speeders are allowed to compete for a main title. Or at least, that's one of the unwritten laws of EEW booking. But recently, Andrew Thorne was scheduled to compete for the Estremo title.

Let's take a look at some differences between the Yuke/Alastor situation and the Draven/Thorne situation:

1- Unlike Draven and Thorne, Yuke and Alastor has no history together. Yes, there was the twitter flame war of some sort, but it wouldn't make sense in real life if, for example, Cena and Matt Hardy were to get a match at WrestleMania over twitter comments. Because One Night Stand is EEW's WrestleMania, we all agree on that.

On the other hand, Andrew Thorne was in the match for the revived Estremo title at Carnage Rules, which, if my memory is right, was booked by Chrono. Now why Chrono put a Speeder in a main title match and why it went on to become a Thorne vs Draven feud instead of K-Dogg vs Draven is something I'm not even close to understand. No matter what, the point still stands, they had time to build something.

2- Andrew Thorne was around since a good period of time. You? You were just starting. You were around in 2004 under the name of Cypher Syckosis, but Thorne is a character that is around since longer than Alastor and the roleplayer behind that character is also in EEW since longer than you.

Right now Golden, I don't know where you're going with this. Yuke vs Alastor could happen if it was non-title, the feud could start after One Night Stand, why does it have to be THAT match at THAT moment? I may be wrong on your intentions, but from what I read, I could almost sense jealousy towards Atrocity tover the fact he's getting a title match and not you.

I also disagree with the Draven vs Thorne title match, but the match has more reasons to take place than Yuke vs Alastor by looking at the build-up and the factors around that.

But whatever, take that for what it is, the opinion of an outside person.

In hopes this time, no one play the ostrich and hide their head in the sand until the problem's just tossed away, like what happens every single time here.

o0 Mystique 0o


Punkology

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:51 am


-Ignores the entire post-

HI MYSTIQUE!!!! biggrin
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:53 am


Hi Shanahan! razz

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Punkology

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:53 am


You need to come back! I miss you! crying
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