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 Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:06 pm
As my profile says, I am gay. But I cannot find anything on Buddhism and what is says on homosexuality, does anyone have any info, links, etc? [Sorry about the second post in such short time, and about all the questions ^^']
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:11 pm
I read somewhere that it really depends on the sect/sangha. I'm sorry I don't have a source for this. sad
However, I'm sure most of us wouldn't really care either way. It's your life, man, party on. :3
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:44 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:30 am
Some sects probably don't care either way, some probably do, and then there are some that both do and don't. They don't care if you're gay, but they are against sexual relations in general.
It all depends on the sect.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:59 am
 Yeah, I'm gay too, so I like to know what the various Religions have to say on the matter. The Buddha never really held separate rules for Hetro & Homosexuals. All should refrain from acts that do harm to oneself and others, sexual misconduct among them. Generally its a sect by sect thing with it, but since I dont really have a sect anymore I follow the Guideline:
* Universalibility principle - "How would I like it if someone did this to me?"
* Consequences - Does the act causes harm and regret (in oneself or others) or benefit and joy?
* Utilitarian principle - Will the act help or harm the attainment of goals (ultimately spiritual liberation)?
* Intention - Is the act motivated by love, generosity and understanding?
And since I dont believe that I am really breaking any of these principles, I dont feel I am breaking any buddhist "rules".
Anyways, to me, it doesn't matter what any Buddhist sects says on any matter, because I believe that Buddhism was meant to be universal. If the Buddha said that it was wrong to be gay, then I wouldn't be a Buddhist.
However there is as quote of the Buddha that I think is really the foundation of Buddhism. I go back to it every time someone asks a question about Buddhism that wasn't expressly stated by the Buddha. "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." Really, Buddhism is meant to fit you, as long as you believe that the Four Noble Truths are in fact True.
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:40 pm
Je Suis La Vie Yeah, I'm gay too, so I like to know what the various Religions have to say on the matter. The Buddha never really held separate rules for Hetro & Homosexuals. All should refrain from acts that do harm to oneself and others, sexual misconduct among them. Generally its a sect by sect thing with it, but since I dont really have a sect anymore I follow the Guideline:
* Universalibility principle - "How would I like it if someone did this to me?"
* Consequences - Does the act causes harm and regret (in oneself or others) or benefit and joy?
* Utilitarian principle - Will the act help or harm the attainment of goals (ultimately spiritual liberation)?
* Intention - Is the act motivated by love, generosity and understanding?
And since I dont believe that I am really breaking any of these principles, I dont feel I am breaking any buddhist "rules".
Anyways, to me, it doesn't matter what any Buddhist sects says on any matter, because I believe that Buddhism was meant to be universal. If the Buddha said that it was wrong to be gay, then I wouldn't be a Buddhist.
However there is as quote of the Buddha that I think is really the foundation of Buddhism. I go back to it every time someone asks a question about Buddhism that wasn't expressly stated by the Buddha. "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." Really, Buddhism is meant to fit you, as long as you believe that the Four Noble Truths are in fact True.
heart 4laugh Ahhh, thanks Je Suis, I understand now, keheheh.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:37 am
Given the Kalama Sutra criteria for acceptance and rejection (which Je paraphrased at the end of that wonderful post) that it may not even be a sect to sect difference that you'll see, but a practitioner to practitioner one based on their own reasonings. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:54 pm
Byaggha Given the Kalama Sutra criteria for acceptance and rejection (which Je paraphrased at the end of that wonderful post) that it may not even be a sect to sect difference that you'll see, but a practitioner to practitioner one based on their own reasonings. 3nodding Ahhh! Okay. Wow, you and Je Suis really made it clear. Thanks Byaggha! ~.^
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:48 pm
i don't consider myself anything but i'm probably just in denial about being a lesbian. i just do what i do.
homosexuality is considered sexual misconduct to some people,
but humans also have sex for pleasure and not only for procreation.
as long as you are careful and don't intentionally harm anyone,
i don't see a problem in any sexual preference.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:30 am
It has always been my understanding that Buddhists accept homosexuals, which has been part of the basis of my decision to practice Buddhism.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:53 pm
Je Suis La Vie However there is as quote of the Buddha that I think is really the foundation of Buddhism. I go back to it every time someone asks a question about Buddhism that wasn't expressly stated by the Buddha. "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." Really, Buddhism is meant to fit you, as long as you believe that the Four Noble Truths are in fact True. heart 4laugh
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:59 pm
I read an article in a Buddhist magazine on the topic once. (I'm gay too, so I was definitely curious.) The writer said that the Buddha never said anything untoward about gays. At one time Buddhist monks were encouraged to refrain from any sexual activity, and that was to include between same sexes as well as opposite.
I've always been of the mind that Buddhists who are prejudiced against gays are about on par with Westboro calling themselves Christians.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:24 pm
On topics like this I think Gaia still needs a like button.
Personally, I see the path of Buddhism as a path toward finding inner peace. For some people the path may be different, particularly when coming from different locations (points in life, not physical location), but the destination is the same. I don't see why homosexuality would be any different from any other type of sexuality with the exception being reproduction, but science has shown sex relieves stress so there is some medical value there.
Some wise leaders have made their quotes on it and I think ample information on this matter has already been provided. I'll just say there may be a different between the common Buddhist who practices without dedicating his entire life to every aspect of Buddhism (including cutting back on sex) and the Buddhist Monk who's entire life is within the practices taught by Buddha.
My constant advice is to just do what feels right to you, but keep in mind I am not a wise spiritual leader. I'm just a common man.
Edit: I have already posted here... I didn't notice this wasn't a new topic...
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:54 pm
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson On topics like this I think Gaia still needs a like button. Personally, I see the path of Buddhism as a path toward finding inner peace. For some people the path may be different, particularly when coming from different locations (points in life, not physical location), but the destination is the same. I don't see why homosexuality would be any different from any other type of sexuality with the exception being reproduction, but science has shown sex relieves stress so there is some medical value there. Some wise leaders have made their quotes on it and I think ample information on this matter has already been provided. I'll just say there may be a different between the common Buddhist who practices without dedicating his entire life to every aspect of Buddhism (including cutting back on sex) and the Buddhist Monk who's entire life is within the practices taught by Buddha. My constant advice is to just do what feels right to you, but keep in mind I am not a wise spiritual leader. I'm just a common man. Edit: I have already posted here... I didn't notice this wasn't a new topic... Hahahahah. Yes, this is quite old. I have learnt quite a lot about Buddhism since this was posted, pretty much what you and the others have stated already. Edit: There are like buttons, but not for guilds. The guilds format isn't very good and isn't nearly as good as the current system for the forums,
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:45 pm
My Roshi had a really good way of looking at this and many other lifestyles that seemed to cut against the grain of Buddhism. He said it did not matter what one did in their life. Working in wealth in a bank or a corporation, working in death on a battle field, or working in sadness in any number of ways. You were born where you needed to be in order to find your way. Your environment and circumstances have nothing to do with your will to find enlightenment.
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