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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:05 am
I was up late, and had the pleasure of stumbling on a documentary called, "The Diary of a Tired Black Man". It discussed the issues of black men trying to pursue black relationships with black women.
Being a black woman myself I understand what they are talking about, but does it really have to be this way? I think a lot of the issues circulate around the definition of "man". What exactly makes a boy a man? We all the the biological point, but what about the maturity, mentality, or in a relationship?
Many of the men said that black women are just confused about what they want, and that we just do not know what we want. In some degree I actually understand the things they were saying, but it just seemed like there was no justification.
The thoughts of what makes a female a woman, and what makes a male a man has been pressured by many other things than just the opposite sex. I think that it has been shaped by society itself. The way we are portrayed in media, music, stereotypes, even our own houses and yet we decided to keep it alive.
I even think that this issue may even branch out from just the black society to just a human society. I think in all of humanity no one could quite define what a man is, or what a woman is. What qualities they should posses, what they are to accomplish.
So I ask you all, what do you feel may be the definition of a man and a woman and what may contribute to the issues that blacks and the world face when it comes to issues of gender.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:40 pm
oh I saw that as well.
But know that this is a problem that both sexes in alot of races deal with in america.
I guess it's because America takes from all cultures. It confuses people when someone gives their idea of what a man or woman is. When there is no definite meaning. All there is, is just being a person and trying to live the best you can morally.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:55 pm
blakjapaneseangl-chan oh I saw that as well. But know that this is a problem that both sexes in alot of races deal with in america. I guess it's because America takes from all cultures. It confuses people when someone gives their idea of what a man or woman is. When there is no definite meaning. All there is, is just being a person and trying to live the best you can morally. True. It seems when it ever comes an issue of gender is in America. Some countries in the Middle East have roles that each sex are suppose to fall into as defined by their religion which I think makes it easier for them. But America is still finding its way to define exactly what America is. And that may be its definition that America is undefinable and the it is up to the individual to shape the definition on their own accord.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:21 pm
I saw it to! Awesome movie and I had to applaud because it was finally the perspective of a 'good' black man. When the guy walked up to her trying to talk to her, and because he wasn't thugged out he got no play. Another dude walks up spits his game and she runs off with him. And the emphasize that Black women always say they want a good man but when he comes along she wants nothing to do with him. And then no one
Not trying to pick a fight sistas, just that really jumped out to me. xP
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:15 am
I specifically liked the part where he checked them broads on trying to label themselves "strong black women" and deeming him incapable of "handling" one which is why he went out with a white girl.
It's one of the most ridiculous myths that black women have come up with that their tendency towards combativeness with black men is indicative of "strength."
I'm still trying to figure out what a "strong black woman" is. Because in my mind.. when "strong" is used as a character trait to define someone I think of mental strength. Not "A woman who won't take no mess. A woman who won't put up with a man's bullshit."
What mess? What bullshit?
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:29 am
Should I copy and paste everything I wrote in your thread? LOL.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:27 am
I don't think is or should be a definite definition on being a man or woman. I think its something you kinda define by yourself. At least that is what I try to do.
I liked the part about females and talking to their fiends. I hate that. It is the most aggravating experience ever.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:56 pm
Princess Z-M Should I copy and paste everything I wrote in your thread? LOL. lol I very much enjoyed your responses. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:45 pm
Foxprincess09 Princess Z-M Should I copy and paste everything I wrote in your thread? LOL. lol I very much enjoyed your responses. 3nodding Hmm. I should go back to that thread. 3nodding Anyway this what I posted in my journal since you beat me to the punch. Probably a good thing anyway. Seems like the folks in the forums give you more breathing room. People see my username and go into attack mode. rolleyes Quote: I found it shocking true in a lot of cases, though it could have went deeper, I understand why it didn't because these were public interviews and people aren't going to flat out say that their Black uncle, step-father, m/f cousin, or mother forced them into sex. At least not in public. Had it touch on Black male and female sexuality it would had made it a tad better. We Black women do talk a lot of crap about Black men to our children and espeically young girls.Because of Baby Daddy issues we don't treat children equally and play favorites. All these things have a negative effect on a small child. Really it made me take a step back and look at my own self and how I treat my brothers and sisters around me.
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