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 Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:23 am
ok first i wanna start of by telling you that this pokemon is legit so dont ask....i was raseing a shuckle i got from the pokemon dude (who says silver stole hes other pokemon) and when i checked it stats its lvl 20..with 100+ defence... so i race it to lvl 100 here is its stats now
nat: relaxed and likes to run
hp: 190
att:45
def:555
sp att:45
sp def:510
speed:54
are these stats rare i dont know but i do wanna know is what would be a good move set for this shuckle razz
move set right now:
rest,
bide,
toxic,
safeguard
item: leftovers
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:35 am
Shuckle has the best Defences in the game, but he doesn't have the HP, Atk, SpAtk, or Speed to be useful for anything else. All one can really do is stall. To be honest, your shuckle is rather weak in comparison. About the only one that could be good is Def. Unless you have a Defence boosting nature, then that's nothing impressive either.
There is no need to have Safegaurd with Rest, so replace it. Bide isn't very good either. I suggest going with Swagger or Stealth Rock, and Gyro Ball. With its speed making it the slowest pokemon in the game, Gyro Ball will be very powerful against fast opponents. So:
Rest
Toxic
Swagger / Stealth Rock
Gyro Ball
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:38 am
huh..well thats for the info neutral
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:20 pm
I'm going to have to agree with Luther on the fact that Shuckle is nothing more than a defensive staller. Though I will have to disagree with him on the usefulness of Bide on this Pokemon. As despite it's a three turn move, it combines any damage that Shuckle might have received and deals double the damage to the opponent. Though anything that could take down Shuckle in less than 3 turns, will definitely make Bide useless, so keep an eye on shuckle's HP every time it takes a hit and decide how to react with your Shuckle from there. I personally would run a moveset like this:
~ Wrap/Toxic
~ Encore
~ Bide
~ Rest
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:39 pm
well let me think
How about
power trick makes defense attack
trick room make the slower one go first
stone edge
earthquake
you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:02 pm
Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time shuckle cant learn trick room sadly...
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:05 pm
shadow gallade 7676 Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time shuckle cant learn trick room sadly... Oh i forgot they change that... well team battle.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:08 pm
Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time Uhh, Shuckle can't learn Trick Room... That would be a great moveset though, lol. How about this? Earthquake Stone Edge Rock PolishPower Trick Similar, but not as quick of a setup.Nevermind, he's way too slow to even make that work... I got nothin'...
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:09 pm
Archolite Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time Uhh, Shuckle can't learn Trick Room... That would be a great moveset though, lol. How about this? Earthquake Stone Edge Rock PolishPower Trick Similar, but not as quick of a setup.Nevermind, he's way too slow to even make that work... I got nothin'... well he hard to use put focus sash on and he has 2 turns to try his best.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:12 pm
Amy Rosalba Archolite Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time Uhh, Shuckle can't learn Trick Room... That would be a great moveset though, lol. How about this? Earthquake Stone Edge Rock PolishPower Trick Similar, but not as quick of a setup.Nevermind, he's way too slow to even make that work... I got nothin'... well he hard to use put focus sash on and he has 2 turns to try his best. I don't think focus sash would help at all, because it only works if its a one-hit kill. If you mean Focus Band, that's banned from Standard Play... (Not to mention, it only works 10% of the time) I think leftovers is probably the best held-item for any shuckle set.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:14 pm
He never could learn trick room to begin with. Using Power Trick would be risky since it would leave him with a max of 130 Def/SpDef. Meaning, all a pokemon had to do was us a Priority move and he would be dead. Full HP or not. The best thing he'd have to do is combo it in a double battle with a pokemon that knew "Follow Me" in which, both the opponent's pokemon would be forced to attack the other pokemon instead of shuckle. However, moves like Earthquake, Discharge, Heat Wave, and Surf would still hit him. In which he'd have to hold Focus Sash otherwise he would be down for the count.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:16 pm
Archolite Amy Rosalba Archolite Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time Uhh, Shuckle can't learn Trick Room... That would be a great moveset though, lol. How about this? Earthquake Stone Edge Rock PolishPower Trick Similar, but not as quick of a setup.Nevermind, he's way too slow to even make that work... I got nothin'... well he hard to use put focus sash on and he has 2 turns to try his best. I don't think focus sash would help at all, because it only works if its a one-hit kill. If you mean Focus Band, that's banned from Standard Play... (Not to mention, it only works 10% of the time) I think leftovers is probably the best held-item for any shuckle set. Or we could just accept the fact that Shuckle is a Staller/Annoyer and any offensive set is doomed to fail. Scizor Bullet Punch (Or just about any other priority move) = Dead Power Swap, Trick Room Shuckle. Guaranteed.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:18 pm
Luther Olathes He never could learn trick room to begin with. Using Power Trick would be risky since it would leave him with a max of 130 Def/SpDef. Meaning, all a pokemon had to do was us a Priority move and he would be dead. Full HP or not. The best thing he'd have to do is combo it in a double battle with a pokemon that knew "Follow Me" in which, both the opponent's pokemon would be forced to attack the other pokemon instead of shuckle. However, moves like Earthquake, Discharge, Heat Wave, and Surf would still hit him. In which he'd have to hold Focus Sash otherwise he would be down for the count. True, speaking of double battle moves that hit both opponents.... I once used a Smeargle with Dark Void.... lol, unfortunately this is illegal because it puts more than one pokemon to sleep.... At least you could get disqualified first turn rofl rofl rofl
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:23 pm
i just use shuckle as a staller as in toxic + rest and leftovers
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:28 pm
gamefreak41495 Archolite Amy Rosalba Archolite Amy Rosalba well let me think How about power trick makes defense attack trick room make the slower one go first stone edge earthquake you alwasy go first with over 600 attack one hit kill every time Uhh, Shuckle can't learn Trick Room... That would be a great moveset though, lol. How about this? Earthquake Stone Edge Rock PolishPower Trick Similar, but not as quick of a setup.Nevermind, he's way too slow to even make that work... I got nothin'... well he hard to use put focus sash on and he has 2 turns to try his best. I don't think focus sash would help at all, because it only works if its a one-hit kill. If you mean Focus Band, that's banned from Standard Play... (Not to mention, it only works 10% of the time) I think leftovers is probably the best held-item for any shuckle set. Or we could just accept the fact that Shuckle is a Staller/Annoyer and any offensive set is doomed to fail. Scizor Bullet Punch (Or just about any other priority move) = Dead Power Swap, Trick Room Shuckle. Guaranteed. Relax man, we're just trying to come up with ideas to make a Shuckle sweeping set. Even if it could never be useful 100% of the time, at least it may work against an opponent who lacks all these; Priority moves, Moves that hit both opponents, etc. Besides, you may be able to come in on something & scare it away due to your opponent not being able to beat it as a stall, & then get with a surprise hit! This would especially work on special sweepers, since Power Trick only affects your physical stats, not the special ones. As far as usefulness, I would agree that it would prove most useful as a support/stall. If I use Shuckle, I would always get one with Encore, so I can switch to an appropriate counter. But every once in a while someone may want to try something unique. This is what we were discussing.
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