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Guitarhero356
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:42 am


It is one of my beliefs that the planet we call earth was not earth until God came and turned it from limbo into Eden. So, let's play a little game for the hell of it. In this conversation only let's say there was a whole world here before God came to earth. What do you think that world would have been like? Regardless of whether you believe the same thing as me or not, If this was true, what do you think the world was like before God turned it into earth?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:35 pm


Well the Bible says that the Earth was a giant ball of water before God made everything and was made about the time of when the angels were which from how Genesis describes it YHWH made everything a long time after but if God came to a world that was already there I think it would've been alot like how it was before the flood of Noah. Total Chaos.

Cradoc
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Guitarhero356
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:15 pm


Cradoc
Well the Bible says that the Earth was a giant ball of water before God made everything and was made about the time of when the angels were which from how Genesis describes it YHWH made everything a long time after but if God came to a world that was already there I think it would've been alot like how it was before the flood of Noah. Total Chaos.
That makes sense, but I also think that there would have to be more to it than that though. One theory that I think could be very true is that tyhere was demons all over the place on the earth and then God came and changed every thing. Another thing that is interesting is, what if God wasn't the only one creating the earth? Just a few more theories I thought i'd throw in there for fun. And also, i'm glad you got what I meant by the topic, Cradoc. Not that many people i've met can theorize religion without starting an argument ortwo.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:51 pm


Guitarhero356
Cradoc
Well the Bible says that the Earth was a giant ball of water before God made everything and was made about the time of when the angels were which from how Genesis describes it YHWH made everything a long time after but if God came to a world that was already there I think it would've been alot like how it was before the flood of Noah. Total Chaos.
That makes sense, but I also think that there would have to be more to it than that though. One theory that I think could be very true is that tyhere was demons all over the place on the earth and then God came and changed every thing. Another thing that is interesting is, what if God wasn't the only one creating the earth? Just a few more theories I thought i'd throw in there for fun. And also, i'm glad you got what I meant by the topic, Cradoc. Not that many people i've met can theorize religion without starting an argument ortwo.
The Bible says that God cast Lucifer and his followers out to Earth before God made Land and Creation so of course this is very Biblical thinking but it'd be more in the spiritual realm of Earth so they wouldn't need land or anything. ninja er...something like that.

Cradoc
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Guitarhero356
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:04 pm


Cradoc
Guitarhero356
Cradoc
Well the Bible says that the Earth was a giant ball of water before God made everything and was made about the time of when the angels were which from how Genesis describes it YHWH made everything a long time after but if God came to a world that was already there I think it would've been alot like how it was before the flood of Noah. Total Chaos.
That makes sense, but I also think that there would have to be more to it than that though. One theory that I think could be very true is that tyhere was demons all over the place on the earth and then God came and changed every thing. Another thing that is interesting is, what if God wasn't the only one creating the earth? Just a few more theories I thought i'd throw in there for fun. And also, i'm glad you got what I meant by the topic, Cradoc. Not that many people i've met can theorize religion without starting an argument ortwo.
The Bible says that God cast Lucifer and his followers out to Earth before God made Land and Creation so of course this is very Biblical thinking but it'd be more in the spiritual realm of Earth so they wouldn't need land or anything. ninja er...something like that.
I just find it so interesting to think about what this planet could have been like before it was made. There are so many possibiltys. Or, if you throw past lives in there for the fun of it, what if we all go on to live another life in this world and then the world ends, and then the next group of people that want to come to earth live here in more than one life repeatedly until the next judgement day. Or what if the earth is hell and repentance is the way out of hell? There are just so many possibilties of things that could have been before Genesis! I love it!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:56 pm


Theirs also problems with thoughs but I'm not going to burst your bubble you kinda remind of myself at a young philosiphical thought I just hope you don't end up like one kid I know.....

Cradoc
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Guitarhero356
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:16 pm


Cradoc
Theirs also problems with thoughs but I'm not going to burst your bubble you kinda remind of myself at a young philosiphical thought I just hope you don't end up like one kid I know.....
Why, what happend to him. Oh, and I know thaty there are problems to the thoeorys, but theorys like that always seem to flow throguh mymind at a million miles per hour, so I never have any real shortage of them.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:23 pm


He believes in the Christian God but he totally doubts the Bible and trys to think of the possibilities of how it may have been distorted over time. One thing he seems to forget is that well, God is a incarnate deity and wouldn't let His word be distorted. The Bible is one of the MOST well kept books in the world.

Cradoc
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Guitarhero356
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:16 pm


Cradoc
He believes in the Christian God but he totally doubts the Bible and trys to think of the possibilities of how it may have been distorted over time. One thing he seems to forget is that well, God is a incarnate deity and wouldn't let His word be distorted. The Bible is one of the MOST well kept books in the world.
How could you doubt the bible? I doubt it somewhat simply because of whats been taken out of it and we don't know everyone who translted the book, but that's no reason to absolutely distrust it.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:00 pm


Well I doubt the different translations but I don't doubt the Bible because some translations are actually based off of other translations and such such as KJV which is a favorite of many Catholic and Orthodox Churches
and was MADE by the English Church and thats why I don't trust it except to help disprove these Churches corruptions and such.

Cradoc
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Guitarhero356
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:32 pm


Cradoc
Well I doubt the different translations but I don't doubt the Bible because some translations are actually based off of other translations and such such as KJV which is a favorite of many Catholic and Orthodox Churches
and was MADE by the English Church and thats why I don't trust it except to help disprove these Churches corruptions and such.
Exactly, that's what I was trying to say about my distrust.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:01 pm


Cradoc
Well I doubt the different translations but I don't doubt the Bible because some translations are actually based off of other translations and such such as KJV which is a favorite of many Catholic and Orthodox Churches
and was MADE by the English Church and thats why I don't trust it except to help disprove these Churches corruptions and such.
You seem to have your versions crossed.

For the most part it is particular protestant Churches, such as the Baptists and some Methodists who love the KJV. Infact, there is a highly ammusing tract by Jack Chick about how it is the only true version of the bible in existance.

It was created at the order of King James shortly before the Pilgrims left for the USA, and so was the main (and for a long time the only) English version found in America, spreading the word quicker than latin versions would have among the lower class workers who made up that new society.

Today in England the NIV, or New International Version is far more popular, as it is clearer and designed for self study as well as group worship. It is an easier read, but can also claim to be clearer on may points, with footnotes about translated words and things that are missing from the KJV, which just assumes it is right in every case. It is used a lot by Church of England (Anglican) followers I know.

The Catholic church uses the Vulgate bible, a totaly different version to the others and translated in different times and ways. The main difference is that it includes the Apocrypha, a set of books seen as non-scriptural by other groups.

Other differences tend to be small, but can be interesting.

Here are some of my favorite biblical resources;
http://www.bible.org/ - a new translation, purely for the internet, including a lot of extras an information about everything biblical.

http://www.bible.com/
http://www.biblegateway.com/ - quick and easy lookups for different bible verses and versions.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0031/0031_01.asp - more of a laugh than anything else, a comic outlineing a fringe groups view of the KJV and why it is the only true path.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm - a great site with many religious and philosophical texts and writings, including bible versions.

http://davidwiley.com/religion.html - another set of such texts, a bit easier to use but less extensive.

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lilacluva05

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:09 pm


i'm sorry but i have no idea what you guys are talking about... except the last guy... all i know is that : "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1 that means he was there always and then he created the heavens and the earth. so... uh.... yeah. and there's nothing missing from the Bible. i think i have discussed this with other people in the alternative Christians guild somewhere.... confused i'll have to find it...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:41 pm


lilacluva05
i'm sorry but i have no idea what you guys are talking about... except the last guy... all i know is that : "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1 that means he was there always and then he created the heavens and the earth. so... uh.... yeah. and there's nothing missing from the Bible. i think i have discussed this with other people in the alternative Christians guild somewhere.... confused i'll have to find it...
I hope this doesn't turn around and bite me, I got pretty angry in that guild from time to time. sweatdrop

Guitarhero356
Crew

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