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 Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:33 pm
I know of rune sets, but I am not completely sure of what they are for. I believe that they are for divination, but could somebody please explain them to me or send me a link to a website that fully explains it.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:34 pm
As you were, I was From what I've gathered Divination, the same goes for Tarot cards.
But for runes to work you need to use blood, they are incomplete without blood. As I am, you will be
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:05 pm
I have never heard of using blood for runes. That seems a bit harsh at least if your path follows the harm none aspect. I know not all of them do. I've heard of them working just fine without.
Runes are a form of divination, sort of like Tarot cards. It's basically stones or something of that nature, with an engraved symbol.(There is a runic alphabet but some people can also make their own) You can place them all into a bag and mix them up, then draw them and lay them out in patterns, or randomly toss them onto the table and decipher their meanings. There's lots of variations I'm sure but this is just a rough explanation. I'll try to find some decent sites to give you more depth on the subject if I can.
Edit: I only glanced over these because I'm in a bit of a hurry but they seem to have a lot of information.
Rune Intro
Runes
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:24 pm
The blood aspect can be found in the myth behind the runes.
"A tree is the most perfect of spiritual beings, with its roots buried alive in Mother Earth and its limbs alive and growing in Father Sky.
According to the Song of the Sybil, when the earth was young, Odin and his two brothers found two trees: an ash tree and an elm, faint, feeble, with no fate assigned to them. Breath they had not, nor blood, nor senses, nor language possessed, nor life-hue. Odin gave them breath. Hoenir gave them senses (shape). Blood and life-hue was given by Lothur.
We are the forbears of the trees. One does not just carve runes, one recreates this ritual. By chanting the name of the the rune, one give the rune breath, the energy of its name. By carving it, one gives the rune senses (shape). By coloring the rune red (blood is optional), one gives it life's hue.
When you carve runes you create life."
As you can see blood was traditional but red paint can substitute. If you buy your own you might be surprised to see a limitless amount of different methods. Runes can be on glass, metal or stone and can be carves, painted on, or embedded with a different material. The possibilities are as limitless as any other tool, because there is no one path or one true way anything is done.
As for reading the runes, I find it more confusing than reading the cards. I prefer the symbolism the cards give in comparison to the symbols the stones give. For the stones there is more memorization than the cards, and they are more abstract. But some people prefer this. Do more research on all of the forms of divination and try them all until you find what is right for you.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:51 pm
Runes are a powerful form of magic, and are closely tied to the Norse Gods, and to the Norse culture in general. If you are seriously considering working with the Runes, it is suggested that you have a good relationship with the Norse pantheon. It is very hard to work with the Runes outside of their original context. They do not always have specific meanings, and much of the interpretation relies on having studied the Rune poems and knowing the culture and the nature of the God/ess associated with the Rune. While there are many neo-pagan books around that will tell you that they are simply another forum of divination, this is not strictly true. They can/are used for divination, but they are also powerful magical symbols that can be used in spells, charms, invocations, etc... If you are seriously interested in learning more about the Runes, I recommended Diana L. Paxson's "Taking Up the Runes". The following links are also key to understanding the culture and traditions from which the Runes are rooted. The Poetic Edda (Elder Edda) The Prose Edda (Younger Edda) Sagas (and other links of interest) And whatever you do - avoid any Rune books by Ralph Blum - he is not a good authority on them (in any way shape or form). zabazor The blood aspect can be found in the myth behind the runes. "A tree is the most perfect of spiritual beings, with its roots buried alive in Mother Earth and its limbs alive and growing in Father Sky. According to the Song of the Sybil, when the earth was young, Odin and his two brothers found two trees: an ash tree and an elm, faint, feeble, with no fate assigned to them. Breath they had not, nor blood, nor senses, nor language possessed, nor life-hue. Odin gave them breath. Hoenir gave them senses (shape). Blood and life-hue was given by Lothur. We are the forbears of the trees. One does not just carve runes, one recreates this ritual. By chanting the name of the the rune, one give the rune breath, the energy of its name. By carving it, one gives the rune senses (shape). By coloring the rune red (blood is optional), one gives it life's hue. When you carve runes you create life." When you are directly quoting a website or author - it's a good idea to note your source. Also that particular quote - is speaking particularly as to why Runes are carved from wood. It has very little to do with why Runes are blooded. Runes are blooded to add a personal connection to them, and has to do with "sacrificing" part of ourselves in order to gain the mysteries of the Runes. In the same way that Odin sacrificed of himself as he hung upside-down on Yggdrasil to gain knowledge of the Runes. As he was pierced by his own spear, so shall we pierce ourselves - hence blooding the Runes. If one (for whatever reason) can't use blood, saliva is a good alternative. Doesn't quite have the "sacrificial" aspect to it, but is still something that will give a personal connection.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:36 pm
x Haruhi in Wonderland x I have never heard of using blood for runes. That seems a bit harsh at least if your path follows the harm none aspect. I know not all of them do. I've heard of them working just fine without.
Runes are a form of divination, sort of like Tarot cards. It's basically stones or something of that nature, with an engraved symbol.(There is a runic alphabet but some people can also make their own) You can place them all into a bag and mix them up, then draw them and lay them out in patterns, or randomly toss them onto the table and decipher their meanings. There's lots of variations I'm sure but this is just a rough explanation. I'll try to find some decent sites to give you more depth on the subject if I can.
Edit: I only glanced over these because I'm in a bit of a hurry but they seem to have a lot of information.
Rune Intro
Runes thank you, much appreciated.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:00 pm
x Haruhi in Wonderland x I have never heard of using blood for runes. Many eclectic/neo-pagan books don't mention it, because the use of Runes in those paths is completely out of their original context, which is very unfortunate. Not only is it disrespectful to the tradition/culture from which they come from, but it also leave many people working with something that they don't fully understand. Which in some cases could be dangerous. Also, a lot of those books are unrealistic in their portrayal of the world - they come from a position that everything should be "love" and "light". Which isn't necessarily a bad thing if that is what one is looking for, but they tend to vilify other aspects of life that are not only perfectly normal, but in some cases critical to the cycle of life. Quote: That seems a bit harsh at least if your path follows the harm none aspect. There is a difference between causing "harm" and causing "hurt" or "pain". When one is blooding the Runes (or using blood for other ritual uses) poking one's finger with a needle or cutting it with a knife hurts a bit, but it's not causing harm - if one is willingly offering it up. The phrase "an it harm none" has been taken to such extremes, and not in a good way. In it's original context, it was never meant as a total prohibition to harm - it was simply a caution, that one should carefully consider all of ones options before taking action.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:48 pm
Ah okay.
and I know what you mean, though I am also bit of a wimp so the idea of pricking my finger startles me. xD So that may just be my wimpyness speaking there.
Thanks. I really don't know enough about runes so I just gave a rough explanation.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 7:41 pm
It's not wimpyness. xd
I had a spell where I was going to use a drop of my blood, and even when I was willing to do it, I could not make myself poke my finger with the needle. sweatdrop I need to get a lancet, like diabetics use, at least that way it's quick.
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