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Who is more annoying?
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  Cactaur
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:39 am


Battle of the annoyances!
In the Desert Corner... CACTAUR!
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Cactuars are little cacti typically depicted having stiff arms and legs, three black dots on their faces (representing two eyes and an oblong mouth) and three yellow quills at the top of their heads. Cactuars are usually very fast, and are tough to hit. Their HP is also usually very low, but their defenses are high and they often yield large amounts of GP, EXP, etc. Often, they counter most attacks with the ability 1000 Needles (Blow Fish in some versions of Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy VI), which always deals 1000 HP of unblockable damage ignoring defense. Usually, this ability can be learned as Blue Magic. In some games, such as Final Fantasy IX, Cactuars may be underground and will only counter-attack if they are hiding. Some games have a stronger version of this attack called 10,000 Needles. A Cactuar also cannot stand getting wet, as it weakens them.















And in the dark corner with a lantern...TONBERRY!
User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show. Tonberries are quite small, usually no taller than three feet. It typically has green skin and a round head with a small snout and round yellow eyes; it walks on two legs and resembles, to some small degree, a bipedal lizard (though without a visible mouth). However, it always wears a hooded cloak, usually plain brown or grey in color, and its dolphin-like tail can be seen peeking out from beneath the hem. A Tonberry always carries two things: a lantern in one hand to light its way through the caves in which it dwells, and a long, sharp knife in the other. In battle, Tonberries slowly walk towards the player's party, and when close use their signature Chef's Knife attack, which either does massive damage or instantly kills a party member, depending on the game. If attacked they counter with Karma or Everyone's Grudge, doing damage to the attacker based on how many enemies they have slain, thus giving them a good chance to instantly kill a party member late in the game. Compounding their offensive strength is their high HP which makes them difficult to kill. Tonberries usually give great rewards upon their defeat though.













So, will the green lizard that laughs at your damage get the kill? Or the Speedy small Cactus being that always hit 1,000 finish first?
How we will judge is on a few things.
The damage they give (not talking one game.)
The damage they can take, if any...
The rewards of one kill.
and Annoyance meter.
One person can either judge one or both. But the poll is a one way street.
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:12 am


Hmm. This is difficult. Speaking from personal experience, I've had more trouble defeating the Tonberries, than the Cactuar. Maybe I'm just weak, I don't know.

It would take too long to go through all of the games. I'll just talk about the bits I can remember. xD stressed [Also, it's been a while since I've faced a Cactuar or a Tonberry, so, if I'm off, please correct me. sweatdrop ]

Tonberries:
In some games [or is that all?] you can't attack them without getting attacked back - hard. They come at you and stab you with their knife [Chef Knife, or Everyone's Grudge or whatever] and next thing you know, that character is KO'd. -_- In FFVIII, you have to defeat a certain amount of Tonberries, in order to attract the Tonberry King, as a GF, am I right? How long would that take?! *dies* In another game, I forget which [probably FFX/FFX-2] there's a cave where Tonberries have a appearance percent of like, 2? O_O
Also, it seems like their HP will never end!
I forget the kind of things you can win from a Tonberry battle. I'm assuming a lot of AP, or something?
If that's not annoying, to have to sit around for a good few hours, beating the crap out of a little green thing with a knife, whilst having your amount of Phoenix Downs whittle down to, like, 1...then I don't know what is.


Cactaurs:
[IMO, I find these cute. Will try not be biased.] Yes, they are annoying! For example, you heal your party to full health, knowing you could get into a Cactuar battle. You have 7000HP, you're okay. Or so you think. Suddenly, the Cactuar unleashes 10,000 Needles. O_O *game over* That and the fact that they run away a hell of a lot, means that you could just be about to KO them, and then...they escape. T__T. Using Leviathan helps a lot though. Cactuars I remember the most; Jumbo Cactuar. I think he's from FFVIII. -_- FFX Cactuars are the cutest, but they're not called Cactuars. Something beginning with 'Q'. Aren't they necessary for some side quest in the Thunder Plains? And those are the ones that run away the most. Lulu has to cast her strongest magic on them in KO them for me before they run, just in case. Even though, like you say, they are rather weak in terms of ATK and HP.
Rewards...hm. In one game [FFVII I think] you get 1000EXP and 1000AP for every litte Cactuar you defeat. Gil/GP..etc; I don't remember, sorry.
Whew!

Hm. Overall; IMO, I would personally say that the Tonberries are the most annoying of the two. Little buggers.

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:52 am


I hate the Tonberries more, especially on FFTA2.. They will use stalk on a character, then get close enogh to use Karma which is a 100% guaranteed hit for 999 (i.e. insta-death). I think on one game (I might be making this up though) They did damage based on how much damage you had done to Tonberries throughout the game (if that did happen that can get old quickly, if it didn't happen then I have some seriously messed up dreams!). The Cactaurs (or Qactaur if they were seen outside of the Sanubia Desert in FFX) were annoying with 10,000 needles, but they didn't often hit me with it.
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:28 am


Cactuars are more evasive, extremely high magic defense, have one of the most annoying moves, 1000 needles, in some 10,000 needles and in Final Fantasy X, there is a cactuar with a move called 99,999 needles as a counter-attack.

Tonberries may be slow but have move that are quite painful. Everyone's Grudge, Chef's Knife(instant kill if successful), Karma(damage is dealt by the number of enemies that character has defeated). Their HP is ridiculous. Unless you're playing Final Fantasy X-2, which has Mega Tonberries. These are insanely fast and can wipe a three person party in a matter of seconds.

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:33 am


Unless you use cheats. *cough*
Yeah, Cactaurs are much faster, personally, I prefer faster-paced battles, cause otherwise I get frustrated; so another reason why I find [most] Tonberries the most annoying.
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:12 am


My vote goes to Cactuar for annoying for always running away dodging my attacks.

For Tonberry I'd vote it for terrifying. eek

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:10 am


Who more annoying... well... In FFX, Tonberry was a killer with Karma... especially if you are attacking foolishly, but in FFX a superboss called Don Tonberry is one of the most valuable bosses in the world if you come with the right abilities equipped (Overdrive-AP, Triple Overdrive, Triple AP,) (Auto-Phoenix) and Overdrive set for Comrade you could get hundreds of thousands of AP everytime the Don used Karma for 99999 against one of the characters.

As for prizes Cactuar dropped MP stroll and HP stroll armors and MP stroll is very valuable in the beginning and they were easily dealt with by using Items like a Electro Marble
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:10 am


Tonberry is creepy, Cactuar is annoying. I'm gonna vote for the dancing cactus here.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:55 pm


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My vote goes to Cactuar for annoying for always running away dodging my attacks.

For Tonberry I'd vote it for terrifying. eek


I agree with you 100%. Against Cactuars I usually find them more annoying than troublesome. Tonberry's on the other hand have instilled fear into the average gamer. I've ran away from more Tonberry's in battle out of fear than Cactuars. Cactuars I normally hang around and fight, then get annoyed from their 1,000 needles attack.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:20 pm


In the long run....I'd have to say Tonberry. Over time, a Tonberry will do more and more damage to you the further you get in the game, where as a Cactaur always does the same amount.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:10 pm


I think the cactuar is more annoying. Whenever I try to kill it, it always spins away from me.
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