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Derecho had had a very enlightening discussion with his mother - and to be honest he found the entire situation somewhat infuriating. normally he would seek out Aleu and rant to her normally sympathetic ears...but as normal lately she was off with verse or Lyra and he wasn't in the mood to go stomping all over the Pack lands in search of her.

Instead the multi-colored wolf stalked off in the direction of his newest friend. She hadn't been around long and was sometimes a bit aloof, though she had been opening up bit by bit after it became clear that her terse replies were not going to chase him away. Having been regarded as a gruff wolf himself Derecho was not bothered by the splotchy wolf and her sometimes off putting manner. Quite the contrary - he found it relieving to find another who was much like he was.

And so - despite being in a snarly mood he stomped up the path towards her den which was a ways off from the others, just as she preferred it to be. Knowing that she must have seen him coming he snorted in derision and flopped down as soon as he reached her entrance. Assuming that she was within somewhere. "The sheer bug-brained nature of some wolves never ceases to amaze me" He stated in a snarky tone.

Derecho huffed impatiently as she finally made an appearance, not that he'd really expected anything less. "No" He told her shortly and then because he thought his tone might sound a bit sharp tried to soften it somewhat by added "At least not this time" In a more teasing tone.

The lighter tone didn't last long however as she turned the direction of his thoughts back to the issue that had brought him here in the first place. "You must have seen the two pups arrive" He stated, knowing that Terreis although not social with most of the wolves in the pack did tend to watch the happenings from afar. He didn't bother waiting for her reply before continuer with his discourse "Well apparently their mother dumped them here because she didn't want them." The sheer heartlessness of that alone would have made him angry enough - what type of mother disregards her puppies "But that's not the worst part - she didn't want them because their male. It's ridiculous. Mother says their pack is some sort of female run warrior pack"

Derecho arched a brow at her small joke - it wasn't often that Terreis joked about, she was far to guarded for that sort of thing - though she had been opening up lately and he gave her a small smile in response to encourage such things.

Her response as he continued however was not lost on the male wolf and he shifted slightly to face her more fully when she suddenly slumped in confusion. Pausing for a few moments to study her face Derecho tried to figure out if it was in response to the pups plight or something else he had said during his tirade. This question was answered in due time when she questioned him about the warrior pack. "Yes..." he responded slowly - though for the life of him he couldn't understand why she was keying in on this bit of the conversation "Mother says they keep their males as willing slaves and their Alpha is some Pen wolf with a long name I don't recall" He told her laying quite a bit of disbelief on the word willing - he couldn't fathom the thought of a wolf wanting to be a slave.

Well he certainly hadn't been expecting this! Either her defense of this Thealia's actions or the pack she belonged to. "Your right..." He said slowly, voice dripping with sarcasm "It's clearly not evil to nearly kill two young pups in a bizarre march to a new pack because of their gender" He nodded his head in a mock display of agreement "I can see how that tracks perfectly!" he continued - completely ignoring the way her fur was starting to bristle and purposefully lounging out on his side in an indulgent fashion that stated he didn't care a wit about her narrow eyed look.

"But indeed that was her name - I on the other hand was paying more attention to the plight of the puppies...then the pack they came from" He clarified - and she should have been too dammit! "Puppies are defenseless they ought to be watched over and protected - not dropped off like some unwanted burden!" He railed at her before taking a few calming breaths. And then another thought crossed his mind and he raised his head to look at her more closely "And just how do you know so much about this pack anyways?"

"point" He had to admit in a gruff voice. "They will certainly live better lives here - if they get over problems. Mother says they are very traumatized" He told her in a surly tone - Derecho disliked seeing anything suffer. He was a protector at heart despite his sometimes harsh seeming nature. "But that doesn't make it right - and I won't condone that sort of treatment...from any pack. Ally or not" He concluded firmly.

He had to blink at her for a few moments before the full force o what she'd said registered. When it did he came swiftly to his feet in a flurry of motion and stared at her. "You lived in this pack..and your defending the ideals that lead to murdering puppies?!?" He asked her in astonishment. It was a hard thing to get his head around but he had to conclude she must be just as cruel as the pack she had come from by her next words "I see...to big to drown was he?" He stated in a scathing tone in far to much of a tizzy now to notice the pain on her face - though he would recall it later.

Derecho's ears turned back and his own lips lifted in a snarl as she rushed towards him, although she was older and grew up in a warrior society Derecho possessed more then enough personal grit to stand his ground. He hadn't spent time learning from Merrill for no reason and somewhere in the back of his mind he was pretty sure the rush was a bluff.

So when she pushed her face into his Derecho took a half step forward and pushed back. he was the son of two alpha's..and far more dominant then most of the packs wolves. He wasn't about to let some lone female push him around - past experience or not. "Forced? Truly..or too brainwashed into thinking males are useless to put your entire heart into keeping him around?" He didn't know the whole story of course but it was a fair assumption to make - nothing, absolutely nothing could make him ever leave Aleu behind. "But if being here is so damned terrible - maybe you should high tail it back to the north. You never know maybe someone there took pity on your abandoned sibling the way Penthesilea took pity on the pups...best hope it wasn't Thealia or another of the heartless brutes" He snarled at her.

"Well maybe if you weren't so closed off about everything!" He snarled at her as she backed off, though he didn't look smug or victorious in that statement despite the fact that she'd been the one to back down. He hadn't wanted to fight her from the beginning and he certainly felt no victory in her walking away...though of course he couldn't let that show.

And he certainly couldn't let her guilt him into running after her "You're not the the only one who's been wasting their time!" He yelled at her as she walked off. "Go on then...run off and live with the feminist warriors so blinded by old values that they ignore or subjugate what could be worthwhile partners!' He continued - which was a far more eloquent speech then Derecho was normally capable of. He was a smart wolf - he just didn't always bother showing it and then of course he had to add a less classy remark to the end "And drown puppies!"

Derecho watched her leave with a mixture of sorrow and anger etched on his face - females! Especially the females from that Northern Pack apparently! Snorting at her last remark he turned about and stalked back down the hill to chew over the confrontation that had just taken place - he could only hope that none of the other pack members had noticed it. Derecho didn't really want to talk about it at the moment.

By the time he reached the bottom of the path Derecho had managed to convince himself that her leaving had been for the bes - how could he ever be true friends with someone so skewed about males/ He couldn't - yes it was better that she just go now...but something in the back of his mind kept nagging at him and despite his determination to remain angry at her his tail sagged just a little as he slipped into the forest.