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 Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:43 pm
There is a girl who I'm acquainted with. She is on my Facebook. Nearly every single day, she posts something incredibly sad and vague. She says she considers ending her life. Like I said, I don't know her very well, so I don't know her situation, but...
I personally think she just wants attention. She just seems like that sort of person.
There's a question there. What if I'm wrong? What if she does kill herself one day? I don't think I'd feel guilty. She has a ton of people who probably look at her Facebook daily. They know her better than I do. They would know if she was serious or not and they would be responsible for helping her through any crises. If I'm wrong, it's not as I'm at fault. Political correctness is sometimes "You're wrong either way." and that's just terrible.
People live with tons of pain every day. Not everyone kills themselves. Why do some people feel that dying is the only answer when other people, like Haitians, for example, live with so much more pain every day? I'm sure there are many Haitians who would love to do nothing more than lay down and die, but they continue to live. I admire that. Believing, no wanting to believe that there will come a time when it will hurt less is amazing. Refusing to hope for a better future... that is wrong.
I have to say, I'm fortunate that I have never seriously considered killing myself. I never ask, "Who would miss me?" because I know who would miss me. I know that I could never do that to the people in my life. I love them too much. It wouldn't be fair, they don't deserve that. This sounds pretty strange, but my loved ones deserve to have me around as long as possible.
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:36 am
I don't think anyone believes that it's the only answer, it just often seems like the best.
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:59 am
What you get for free is most easily thrown away.
It's as such in everything. If you have to strive to stay alive, you're not going to let your effort go to waste.
In all honesty, I'd try to pull a Kamina. Slap a b***h, before attempting to lay down why they shouldn't so such things.
*Shot*
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:15 pm
Suicidal people disgust me. If they were really suicidal, they'd already be dead. Attention whores talk2hand
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:05 pm
Phukking Writch Suicidal people disgust me. If they were really suicidal, they'd already be dead. Attention whores talk2hand Congratulations, you've just completely underestimated how hard it is to end your own life.
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:00 am
Phukking Writch Suicidal people disgust me. If they were really suicidal, they'd already be dead. Attention whores talk2hand
That's a horrible thing to say =/
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I had one really bad night where I thought about it. I tried calling my boyfriend, but he didn't pick up 'cause it was like 2am. But I realized how selfish and stupid it would be and didn't do it. I'm too much of a p***y to ever go through with it anyway, but I know it's not a good feeling.
Whenever someone I know is talking about that kind of thing, I take it seriously. Even when it seems like they're just looking for attention, I worry that they'll go through with it, and I'd never forgive myself for ignoring the signs. It's just super hard when it's someone I barely know, because I'm scared that I'll say the wrong thing and set them off >.<
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:53 am
I think about it when I can't find other doors to get through in life... but I can't just cause a rip in history w/ me not existing on future moments w/ friends and family, I can't risk that.
I don't really like comments such as "the only way to stop depression is if the people just kill themselves already". Yes that is one option, but in actuality it's a cry for help, and as a fellow human being it's our duty (or not depending from person to person) to help each other out regardless if we know them personally or not. Is the girl's life not worth looking into (even a small intervention like a PM asking if something is wrong) and then wait if her family and friends are grieving over her gravestone?
Life is just too precious to give up... emo
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:33 am
Phukking Writch Suicidal people disgust me. If they were really suicidal, they'd already be dead. Attention whores talk2hand Damn Writch. How could you say such a thing? Do you know what kind of mental state they have to be in to consider it? I mean, really trying to do it? It's honestly more of a challenge than it seems. Anyway, I don't see why people commit suicide. Sure, it seems like the best answer, and sometimes they feel there is nothing for them left, but that's not true. It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Who knows? Things might get better tomorrow, or even in a couple hours. I don't know what else to say. It's kind of a sensitive topic for me.
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:38 am
Well if it is that difficult to go through with, then maybe they should find a better solution for their problems instead of plaguing all their family and friends with worry and grief.
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:39 pm
I'm not gonna lie. I've wanted to commit suicide a couple of times but I thought myself out of it. Not all people that want to commit suicide are attention whores some actually really are on the verge of doing it.
and I dont think im really going anywhere with this >.<
point is not everyone is doing it for attention.
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:12 pm
Being as they are asking for attention through claims in an attempt to suicide also means they're asking for help, even if unconsciously. Whether what you say to them is a deciding factor in what they do with their own life is another thing. It's never a good thing to avoid such conversations, because people in this world are all uncertain. It's because you know that there's a chance that they might perform suicide that it obligates you to talk to them about it.
Though there are cases where others don't ask for help and really end their life right there and then. This is due in part that they already think there's nothing that can save them from whatever is seemingly cursing their life. This alone supports the idea that those who talk about committing suicide are likely looking for help in some manner consciously and/or unconsciously.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:19 am
I've never had such feelings, but a friend of mine told me about her thoughts of suicide one day in our sophomore year. She told me how scared she was of actually having these thoughts in the first place, as well as how much more scared she was of acting on them.
I did probably the worst thing ever and promised her that I wouldn't tell anyone. I was just so confused and scared. Honestly, it's probably one of the worst decisions I've ever made and and I still feel extremely guilty about it. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one she told about it too. The rest of her friends were either users or dealers.
A few days later she tried to commit suicide by OD'ing on pills but her sister found her and called for an ambulance. She had her stomach pumped and spent a few days in the hospital, but after that she was okay. She got pulled from public school, cleaned herself up, got a boyfriend and a job. It's really a happy ending, but knowing that in the end my silence would have ended her life if not for her sister is a horrible feeling.
I guess what I'm saying is that if someone tells you something like that and you feel that they're serious, you should do all in your power to help them out and make sure they don't.
Just don't be stupid like me. : )
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:17 am
Well, it sounds like this facebook friend is suffering from a very severe bout of depression if they are not purposely doing it for attention.
There are several ways to deal with types like those. One is to ignore them and let others deal with them. The second is merely to send a note telling them how important life is. The third is to get someone to talk to them.
As for them making it a public thing via facebook, I suspect it is because they don't have anyone that will listen or talk to that understands. It is a plea for someone out there to call them out on their delusions and to, well, care about them and their life. They probably feel completely alone in the world and worthless, worthless enough and unnoticed enough that they probably think it best to rid the world of one more hungry mouth to feed.
They want friends to somehow reach them, to prove to them that their life is actually worth something. Some may think that is attention-whoring, and to an extent, it is. Yet, it is needed as humans naturally want to connect to others and to feel wanted. It is selfish, but it is part of our nature.
Someone essentially needs to talk to that person until their conscience or sense kicks back in. People in that state are not thinking clearly. Once sense kicks back in, it is best to monitor that person for awhile until they seem to be more or less out of a state of extreme depression.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:02 am
There's a big difference between being depressed and having depression. What the people of Haiti are going through is horrible. They're very upset. They're depressed. But most of them don't have depression.
Depression is a clinical and biological thing - meaning there's a lot to do with chemical imbalance (generally having to do with serotonin). It can be incredibly hard to do even simple things - like brushing your teeth or taking a shower. You can sleep all day and have insomnia. You can cry over the stupidest of things.
It bothers me a lot when people scream "ATTENTION WHORE!!1"
Do you really think people post stuff like that, but deep down, are happy and skipping and lalala? You're not going to post sad stuff a lot unless you are sad a lot.
If you know who the person is, I really think you should call a local counseling center or suicide hotline and report it. Even if she doesn't try to kill herself (assuming she hasn't already attempted and failed), she does need help.
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:10 am
CleoSombra There's a big difference between being depressed and having depression. What the people of Haiti are going through is horrible. They're very upset. They're depressed. But most of them don't have depression. Depression is a clinical and biological thing - meaning there's a lot to do with chemical imbalance (generally having to do with serotonin). It can be incredibly hard to do even simple things - like brushing your teeth or taking a shower. You can sleep all day and have insomnia. You can cry over the stupidest of things. It bothers me a lot when people scream "ATTENTION WHORE!!1" Do you really think people post stuff like that, but deep down, are happy and skipping and lalala? You're not going to post sad stuff a lot unless you are sad a lot. If you know who the person is, I really think you should call a local counseling center or suicide hotline and report it. Even if she doesn't try to kill herself (assuming she hasn't already attempted and failed), she does need help. Okay, I admit I am getting close to calling her an attention whore. I probably shouldn't judge. Like I said, I don't know this girl. All I know is that she comes to school, bright and cheery, and then goes on Facebook and posts incredibly depressing things. Really, she does have people who care about her and I don't know her well enough to tell if she does have serious problems or not. I'm not quite in the right position to call anyone about her potential issues. I just have to hope that if she does have problems, the people around her are helping her through them. Depression is hard. I don't have it, so I can't imagine what people with it are going through. I can try, but it's one of those things that even if you try, you're going to fail anyway. I know people with depression and it's extremely frustrating because I want to help them and they're so depressed that they think they don't deserve help or things like that. It's like they're being controlled by some outside force. >_< I still think that suicide is never the answer in any situation.
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