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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:34 pm
I will start out this by saying the history influences the music as much as the music to history! SO, as any pub we need a bit of informational backing so we do not seem halve as silly as we are, right?
I begin with a song of rebellion called "Follow Me up to Carlow". It was a song about the battle of Glenmalure and the great victory of the Irish lead by the Desmonds rebellion. Of course this valiance was followed by a great lose!
Anyway, here it is!
Lift MacCahir Og your face Brooding o'er the old disgrace That black FitzWilliam stormed your place, Drove you to the Fern Grey said victory was sure Soon the firebrand he'd secure; Until he met at Glenmalure With Feach MacHugh O'Byrne.
Curse and swear Lord Kildare, Feach will do what Feach will dare Now FitzWilliam, have a care Fallen is your star, low. Up with halberd out with sword On we'll go for by the lord Feach MacHugh has given the word, Follow me up to Carlow.
From Tassagart to Clonmore, There flows a stream of Saxon gore Oh, great is Rory Oge O'More, At sending loons to Hades. White is sick and Lane is fled, Now for black FitzWilliam's head We'll send it over, dripping red, To Liza and her ladies.
Curse and swear Lord Kildare, Feach will do what Feach will dare Now FitzWilliam, have a care Fallen is your star, low. Up with halberd out with sword On we'll go for by the lord Feach MacHugh has given the word, Follow me up to Carlow.
See the swords of Glen Imayle, Flashing o'er the English pale See all the children of the Gael, Beneath O'Byrne's banners Rooster of the fighting stock, Would you let a Saxon c**k Crow out upon an Irish rock, Fly up and teach him manners.
Curse and swear Lord Kildare, Feach will do what Feach will dare Now FitzWilliam, have a care Fallen is your star, low. Up with halberd out with sword On we'll go for by the lord Feach MacHugh has given the word, Follow me up to Carlow.
To hear the song being played go to my profile page and it is my song! DO you think that it is a good idea to have an area of Irish history to delve the culture a bit?
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:07 am
You got my thumbs up. ;D The music in your profile doesn't load for me by the way. ^^;
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:35 am
That is odd! IT is sort of an Mp3 thingy but usually it comes up!
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:04 am
Ooh, I've always liked that song. I've got it lying around on a CD somewhere around here...
And I agree that it's a good idea for a topic. I'm sure some great conversations could be had.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:12 pm
Wow, the approvals of BOTH of the Crew members that is an honor! I actually have looked into Irish history and its ancient religions and writing systems ALOT! Anyway, I will start up the topic of the St. Patrick. Originally he came from England, he was a slave that was stolen by pirates and when he hit Ireland was appaled by the still immence paganism and decided to bring catholicism to Ireland. Naturally this was before the reformation of the Catholic in England by Cardinal Wolsley and King Henry VIII(shudders at his name) so the catholicism delivered was the hard core Roman Catholic! Anyway, he was in England known as Maewyvin Succat but the affectionate Patrick was given in honor to give an Irish flare to the Isles patron Saint. Some of his works were driving out the snakes into the sea, that is why all knot work done after the christian shows snakes with fins at the end of their tales, battling the 40 spirits the Devil AND his mother on Croagh Patrick. However, he was one of the more respectful reformers of faith! Many of the holidays dates and traditions of Irelands old ways were kept while applying christian concepts to them. Such as the week festival of Brid becoming the week that honered Patrick naming it Saint Patricks day, the Celtic new year known as Samhaine was turned to old hollows eve and all saints day. Little things like that to not shatter the social structure. The sad thing was his care of the ways in Eire was viewed as weekness in the English church, and the uniqness of early Irish Catholicism was a reason for the English to feul hate even more. Well kiddies that was lesson one, please post comments or additions to this! I only started with the Saint because it is more well known however you will find we will delve much further far into the pre-christian era, maybe even to Neolithic if it can be managed!
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:11 pm
WOW~ This was a brilliant idea! IT HATH REALLY TAKEN OFF, EH???? (cough>sarcasm
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:07 pm
Phil Lynott used to live on the other half of my road and Larry Mullen does, his kids go to the primary school for my secondary school(I didn't go there) most I've heard of them is people saying (I hate that kid(there are three of them and most of them are referring to Elvis))
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:30 am
well I generally dont know anything... so this page is very handy 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:44 am
In 6th Class I had to learn all about Daniel O'Connell etc. I can't remember anything now not even they're names!
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:18 am
I love history..weird I know but we had/ve a really good teacher. Mone fav part of history was prob the world wars and the 20 century Irish history.
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:17 am
I think it's a great idea Celt Person. I'd love to hear more about St Brid and about the invasions. Anything you have to offer would be enjoyable. I'll be looking for more posts
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:19 am
Celt person WOW~ This was a brilliant idea! IT HATH REALLY TAKEN OFF, EH???? (cough>sarcasm Can you tell me about the images in your sig?
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:43 am
I am not that interested in Irish history.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:43 am
I'm learning about the Celts in history and we've finished the ancient burial places like Newgrange and Knowth.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:32 pm
Flogging Molly's "Tobacco Island" is like that too.
[Chorus] All to hell we must sail For the Shores of sweet Barbados Where the sugar cane grows taller Than the god we once believed in Till the butcher and his crown Raped the land we used to sleep in Now tommorow chimes of ghostly crimes That haunt Tobacco Island
'Twas 1659 forgotten now for sure They dragged us from our homeland With the musket and their gun Cromwell and his roundheads Battered all we know Shackled hopes of freedom We're now but stolen goods Darken the horizon Blackened from the sun This rotten cage of Bridgetown Is where I now belong
[Chorus]
Red leg down a peg Blistered burns the soul The floggings they're a plenty But reasons there are none Our backs belong to landlords Where branded is there name Paid for with ten shillings Cheap labor never breaks The silver moon is shinin' Cools the copper blood Where the livin' meet the dead And together dance as one
[Chorus]
Agony, will you cleanse this misery? For it's never again i'll breathe The air of home From this sandy edge The rolling sea breaks my revenge With each whisper a thousand waves I hear roar I'm coming home
Dark is the horizon Blackened by the sun This rotten cage of Bridgetown Is where I now belong
[Chorus]
Basically it's about the 60,000+ Irish Catholics sent as slaves to the Caribbean in 1650 by "Tobacoo Island" (aka Britain). Oliver Cromwell, the leader of Britain you could say at the time, and his "round heads" (basically his army) came over to Ireland in 1649 and began his conquest of Ireland.
Now, I am no expert on this so please correct me if I am incorrect about anything in this... I applogize in advance if I'm incorrect about this or if I offend anyone - that was not my intention. smile
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