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i noticed that the topic of Evolution vs. Creationism came up in the Mandatory Thread on my way to posting something more personal to discuss, and felt invited to share this Theory of mine that i love to talk about about! ^.^

you see, i definately believe in Evolution, however... looking about the world i discovered that i simply cannot believe in it all having been completely random and accidental. there is just too much symbiosis, too much symmetry, too much systematics for that to be the case.

look around. everywhere we go we see ecosystems, in which everything living, non-living and even once-living works together in unison. the Trees produce Oxygen, which we Humans and other Animals breathe in. we exhale Carbon Dioxide, which the Trees absorb to repeat the process. it's a constant cycle.

the Plants grow Flowers which depend on Animals to pollinate so that they can reproduce. some of these Flowers are designed to attract certain specific Insects that other Animals eat. the Insects pollinate the Flower that the Animal would otherwise eat, but when the Animal eats the Insect it pollinates the Flower in the Insect's place.

everywhere we look, individual species have Evolved specificaly to work together with eachother as individual species. that can't happen randomly.

now this got me thinking, if it's not random, than what is it? what could direct this? it couldn't be spontaneous, that just doesn't add up. i remembered a belief that was spoken in many different ways across many different cultures and religions. the general idea that everything functions in both a Microcosm and in a Macrocosm, and that the two are interrelated. "as Above, so Below" is one version of it.

i took a look at it that way. all things are made up of Atoms. Atoms combine to make Elements. Elements combine to make Molecules. Molecules combine to make Cells. Cells combine to make Organs and Muscles and Bones and Bark and Leaves and all kinds of stuff. these varying components combine to make Organism both living and non-living. these Organisms combine to make Ecosystems. Ecosystems combine to make Planets. Planets combine to make Galaxies. it goes on and on and on.

so, with this new point of view in mind i began to think. and i came to an interesting possibility. what if the individual Cells choose their own Evolutionary path? after all, the first living things were Unicellular Organisms. all Evolution began with them. though this theory has of course been argues, i have yet to find any evidence that would suggest a flaw in it. in fact, i've found some interesting supporting evidence. did you know that Cells actually respond to outside stimulous, almost as though they had some sort of nervous system? they might not have thoughts, but we can't prove it, or that they don't have something at least akin to thoughts. if anything, there is evidence that they have some kind of capacity for making decisions.

anywho, feel free to discuss.

well, it realy doesn't convince me that i'm wrong about this to hear that. if anything, i think it supports my theory. see, if this is truely the way that they communicate, then it accounts for the method in which evolution takes (that is, in responce to outside stimulus, causing a slow adaptive mutation in the organism while it is still alive, and surviving hereditarily through DNA).

it makes perfect sense to me. i just can't believe in randomness anymore, not when i see all of this definite patterning and biosynergy. ya know?

1.) you don't have to be sorry. never appologize for believing something. it's your belief. it only matters to you, it only matters what you think of it.

2.) this isn't creationism. at all. i would apreciate it if you actually payed attention to what was written, realy listened to it, instead of shrugging it off as being the opposite of what you believe in just cause it isn't the thing you believe in. the world isn't cut in half Ura.

that's ok, if you don't understand then you don't understand. smile if you like, i can try to clarify what i mean. just tell me wht about it you don't understand?

ah. well, what i am saying is that cells will make attempts to retreat from some harmful thing they come into contact with, or such. it's an example of them actually responding to something that effects them.

My thought is, whether it be through creation or evolution we had to come from something. It is hard to imagine that the universe has always been there without a real start. I do have mixed feelings on the subject, I could go either way. I think many of our flaws have been through genetic mutation over thousands of years. I mean when you look through history there is a lot of incest going on. Even if you look at the Bible stories of Adam and Eve and then Noah (just as an example, nothing more). The kids were basically marrying each other.

I could buy your theory, I bet you could make money off of it if you wrote a book. You are right about the bloodline thing. I love reading about medieval European royalty and they were all about marrying their cousins in order to ensure that their children would be of the finest bloodline.

Research into mtDNA (that is, mitchondrial DNA), which is passed down by your maternal side alone shows that there are about 7 sisters from which humanity descended (note: not all seven were around at the same time). They're usually called the daughters of eve.
You can even get your mtDNA analysed to see which sister you're descended from. Unfortunately when they did mine, my mtDNA had too many unusual mutations to show which sister I'm descended from (I have trouble with all DNA analysis, apparently my DNA is screwed up enough to not be standard human, but not enough to make me non-human xd ). Some people use that sort of thing as justification they've got fae/vulcan/timelord blood in them somewhere along the line...I'm tempted, but I don't bleed green.

Information for the curious:
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The Clans

((I'm not really here to debate, just add information, because it's fun 3nodding ))