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Dj Kool - Aid

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:55 am


Ok. So when deciding what adv job you want ahead of time. You begin to think of the different race stats that could affect your job in the future. What is your idea on what race would be preferable to each class. I understand to think that it doesn't matter as long as your happy with it. Im just thinking idealy.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:53 am


it makes no difference really but there are races that fit jobs better than other races.

Tarus - BLM or SMN because of High INT and High MP
Mithra - THF, RNG, NIN and any other job where u need DEX and AGI
Hume - No outstanding jobs
Galka - MNK, WAR because of high VIT and HP
Elvaan - WHM and PLD because of High attack and MND

Imaginations_Fiend


Reguel

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:32 am


mithras make good mages too ^^ i havent had a hard time being a whm as a mithra they have decent mp and mind, and are hard to hit ^^
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:08 pm


In my opinion

Taru- BLM, WHM,SMN obviously just for the MP it starts out as a noticable difference and the gap just gets bigger between taru MP and everyone else.

Elvaan- DRG, SAM,WAR,PLD2 they have a nice bit of attack making them great dds as for pld the high vit and second to highest hp + natural MND is good, but small mp pool is a problem in xp i hear.

Hume- BST, DRK, PLD3 I like hume for these jobs cause they all require a nice deal of balance, i love them for DRK because their acc doesn't completly blow for dd but the dmg still won't be mega gimped cause the lower STR

Galka- PLD1, MNK, WAR galks make hands down the BEST pld, the HP is what you want for endgame and they're like tarus in that way, the amount is noticable and only gets bigger, for the same reason i like them for monk, also the high vit helps. as for war they have the right balance of VIT/STR/DEX to make war/nin or anything else work well.

Mithra- NIN,RNG,THF anything that requires eva, dex and agi thats where these guys excel.

I got pld in there for 3 different races simply cause all 3 jobs make great PLD but that goes for all the jobs ( i just used pld as an example of this cause its the job i know the most about. I also put them in order hume making the 3rd best of the three, i guess mithra is neck and neck for pld with hume aswell))

The Lazy Suffer


Sinatin

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:04 pm


Horney_Lil_Boy
it makes no difference really but there are races that fit jobs better than other races.

Tarus - BLM or SMN because of High INT and High MP
Mithra - THF, RNG, NIN and any other job where u need DEX and AGI
Hume - No outstanding jobs
Galka - MNK, WAR because of high VIT and HP
Elvaan - WHM and PLD because of High attack and MND


I object, I have to say that I think Humes are the best WHM's personally. They don't have as much MND as Elv's but they are more balanced and have more Mp @w@, aand, They are more versitile. 3nodding
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:46 am


it would be fair to say that some jobs are more restricted than others. it's easier to say which races have a *harder* time playing than which is the best.
For example - galkan usually steer away from mages due to their low mp pool (not to say that galkan can't make excellent mages ^.-)
and elvaan tend to think twice before entering a high DEX-required job, such as thf (not to say that elvaan can't be awesome thfs >.<; wink

I'm a bit against the grain myself as a mithran pld, however i've found many assests of my race that really compliment the pld job - but my style of play is significantly different to low-mp/high-vit pld classes like elvaan and galka

since all jobs require many many different stats to make a success (a pld needs hp, mp, vit, mnd, str, agi - no one race has all these high >.<; ) they're all open to interpretation. however it's possible to pinpoint VIT as being the primary pld stat and therefore a high VIT race (like galka) seems a good choice. but it takes more than vit to be a good pld ^.-
you might then say low VIT classes (tarutaru) would be less good of a choice for this job - but there are many arguements for and against every race, in every job

I hope you can see where I'm getting at here ^.-
Every job have 1 or 2 *primary* stats, and many secondary stats - focusing on the primary stats will usually give you an "ideal race" choice for a job - but its a combination of the primary and the secondary that make the job really work - hence, all races can play all jobs smile

rukawa_uke
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The Lazy Suffer

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:40 am


Rukawa has the right idea, and i totaly agree. but also i'd like to point out the fact that this is why i went hume. Because as a race they are soo balanced when picking a job you can focus on boosting your JOBS strength and not your races weakness. for example in the 50's most elvaan and Galka plds end up boosting MP cause for a pld the majority of the time your mp amount is directly linked to the amount of hate you hold. (this is why i keep hearing that taru PLDS are monster hate holders) PLD is one of the few jobs that requires a fair deal of balance atleast during the xp stages, the only reason i don't fully believe that Humes and Mithras make the best PLD is because when it gets to end game its no longer about that balance. The majority of the time you'll be getting double refresh as pld during gods and what not (Refresh + Ballad 1&2) so your HP and VIT play a bigger role. And even with a gigant a BQ ring and a Bloodbead i'll never match a galka PLDs HP.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:12 pm


meh

All i know (stat wise) is that the best race for each job (stat wise) are these:

BRD and BST - best to be hume, taru or elvaan coz they have slightly higher CHR than Mithra and Galka.

WHM - taru for mp, Elvaan for MND

BLM - taru for mp and INT

RDM - Hume coz its the only "balanced" job

SMN - taru for mp

THF, RNG, NIN - Mithra for high AGI and DEX

PLD - Galka for high hp

SAM and WAR - usualy Elvaan

Imaginations_Fiend


Sinatin

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:40 am


Meh, I would have to say that any player can be the race, and Job they want, as long as they are a smart player that is.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:51 am


Horney_Lil_Boy
meh

All i know (stat wise) is that the best race for each job (stat wise) are these:

BRD and BST - best to be hume, taru or elvaan coz they have slightly higher CHR than Mithra and Galka.

WHM - taru for mp, Elvaan for MND

BLM - taru for mp and INT

RDM - Hume coz its the only "balanced" job

SMN - taru for mp

THF, RNG, NIN - Mithra for high AGI and DEX

PLD - Galka for high hp

SAM and WAR - usualy Elvaan


my mithra whm has more mnd than a elvaan with the same level -.- I ask ALOT XD

Reguel


Hileron

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:24 pm


you should just pick whatever race you like to be. Playing a race that bores you just because its most ideal isnt wahts important, its doing whats more fun and in the end it doesnt matter how good your race is at doing what you do, its how good the player is at what he does.
There's so much stat changing gear you can totally customize your char for what it needs the most and what it lackes the most.
(Galka Mage = LOTS of mp gear)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:48 pm


Polly Moon
you should just pick whatever race you like to be. Playing a race that bores you just because its most ideal isnt wahts important, its doing whats more fun and in the end it doesnt matter how good your race is at doing what you do, its how good the player is at what he does.
There's so much stat changing gear you can totally customize your char for what it needs the most and what it lackes the most.
(Galka Mage = LOTS of mp gear)


*pokes* why do ya think i'm a manthra ^^ <3 furries

Reguel


Imaginations_Fiend

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:24 pm


Reguel

my mithra whm has more mnd than a elvaan with the same level -.- I ask ALOT XD
i resent that coment with this table i found on the net for whm stats


---Stats---

At lv 1 -

HUME: GALKA: ELVANN: MITHRA: TARUTARU:

HP 27 HP 32 HP 29 HP 27 HP 23
MP 22 MP 16 MP 20 MP 22 MP 28
STR 6 STR 7 STR 7 STR 6 STR 5
DEX 5 DEX 5 DEX 5 DEX 7 DEX 5
VIT 6 VIT 8 VIT 7 VIT 6 VIT 6
AGI 6 AGI 6 AGI 5 AGI 7 AGI 7
INT 6 INT 6 INT 5 INT 6 INT 8
MND 8 MND 8 MND 9 MND 8 MND 8
CHR 7 CHR 6 CHR 7 CHR 6 CHR 7

At lv 75 -

HUME: GALKA: ELVANN: MITHRA: TARUTARU:

HP 971 HP 1243 HP 1092 HP 971 HP 745
MP 540 MP 349 MP 464 MP 540 MP 768
STR 56 STR 61 STR 65 STR 53 STR 48
DEX 48 DEX 48 DEX 45 DEX 62 DEX 48
VIT 56 VIT 70 VIT 61 VIT 53 VIT 53
AGI 53 AGI 50 AGI 45 AGI 62 AGI 58
INT 53 INT 50 INT 45 INT 53 INT 67
MND 70 MND 70 MND 79 MND 67 MND 67
CHR 61 CHR 53 CHR 61 CHR 53 CHR 61

plus i played my friends whm elvaan and it is 75 and has those base stats.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:26 pm


Horney_Lil_Boy
Reguel

my mithra whm has more mnd than a elvaan with the same level -.- I ask ALOT XD
i resent that coment with this table i found on the net for whm stats


---Stats---

At lv 1 -

HUME: GALKA: ELVANN: MITHRA: TARUTARU:

HP 27 HP 32 HP 29 HP 27 HP 23
MP 22 MP 16 MP 20 MP 22 MP 28
STR 6 STR 7 STR 7 STR 6 STR 5
DEX 5 DEX 5 DEX 5 DEX 7 DEX 5
VIT 6 VIT 8 VIT 7 VIT 6 VIT 6
AGI 6 AGI 6 AGI 5 AGI 7 AGI 7
INT 6 INT 6 INT 5 INT 6 INT 8
MND 8 MND 8 MND 9 MND 8 MND 8
CHR 7 CHR 6 CHR 7 CHR 6 CHR 7

At lv 75 -

HUME: GALKA: ELVANN: MITHRA: TARUTARU:

HP 971 HP 1243 HP 1092 HP 971 HP 745
MP 540 MP 349 MP 464 MP 540 MP 768
STR 56 STR 61 STR 65 STR 53 STR 48
DEX 48 DEX 48 DEX 45 DEX 62 DEX 48
VIT 56 VIT 70 VIT 61 VIT 53 VIT 53
AGI 53 AGI 50 AGI 45 AGI 62 AGI 58
INT 53 INT 50 INT 45 INT 53 INT 67
MND 70 MND 70 MND 79 MND 67 MND 67
CHR 61 CHR 53 CHR 61 CHR 53 CHR 61

plus i played my friends whm elvaan and it is 75 and has those base stats.


last three i've asked i've had more, doesnt matter anyways as your chart shows, I'll have more mp, making me more usefull twisted

Reguel


TheBlackDragon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:31 pm


A WHM with high MP is the most ideal, thus tarutaru. MND really does NOT come into play enough as a whm. Especially in end game, cure 5 is the ONLY spell that has no cap and can be raised by pumping out mnd gear. And honestly, especially as a 75 whm fighting gods and stuff, a cure 5 is rarely used at it's max potential and you'll be wishing you had more MP more often then MND.
I've played whm my 2+ yrs of ffxi life, and been a happy 75 whm in an end game ls for quite some time. Argue with me all you want, but I stand very firmly in the facts.
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