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Honestly, I'm one who has some but a rather limited base of knowledge of politics all together, I'm going to put that out first before we continue. But I'm curious about this new bill on healthcare and such and why it's so debated. And all together my questions are:

Why are the right wing advocates so against it and the left wing advocated fighting so hard for it?
What are it's contents?
Why is the fighting so heated when this matter is of hardly any concern or even mention in other countries?

I wanna hear the points of view from both sides of this and from you guys. But my question to you, my fellow guild member's, are as follows:

What side are you (republican, democrate, etc.)?
Why do you want or not want this bill to pass?
What do you think of the media coverage on this?
What can you say to dissuade those who are opposite of your view?

Let the debate BEGIN!!

Let me just start by saying I am so shocked it passed!
my entire town didn't think it would, so when i found out last night, i nearly fainted @.@

i'm anti-political parties, but i'm very liberal and tend to agree with the democratic party's planks most of the time.
whether i wanted it to or not, it passed. no sense in denying it. im just concerned about the financial issues in the long-run. like, my parents actually sat me down and told me that NYU and RICE are pretty much going to be pipe dreams from now on. and this certainly isnt going to help any. TT^TT
i don't watch Tv, and the papers here have been going on and on about the violence in Mexico, so i can't really say anything about the media coverage because i haven't really seen much of it. >.>;;
To each his own. at this point we'll have to wait and see. what if this actually works? what if it epicly fails? if you don't agree with me, i advise you to hold your tongue until we see change. or regression.

i mean, i largely don't mind it, but there are parts of it that make me want to scream. even though i know it's pointless.

left-wingers are largely about cilvil rights, democracy, and lifting up the lower classes. that's why they (we?) want(ed) this so badly. its intention is to help people with modest incomes out with their medical bills.
Ex. single mom who cant afford to pay for the medical expenses her child with type I diabetes needs.

this, i think, (look, Boo! i did it! ;DD) is a noble intention, especially since doctors charge up the a** for simple check ups! D:<
what sucks is that I KNOW sponges and freeloaders are gonna find a way to screw the system.

right-wings, or conservatives, are just that. they want to CONSERVE the old ways. i find this to be dangerous, since being stagnant gets NOTHING done. it makes no sense to just stay put when the world is falling apart around you, n'est-ce pas?? they don't want this health care reform because it would mean the thing they dread most --change. Hmmm. whose mantra was that...? they also largely tend to promote the interests of big business.

The rest of the world doesn't care because most european countries already have universal healthcare, and [i think] it works for them.

I was talking about large families with one income of 16k a year.
Because there are a lot of those.

Agreed, and they live without it. (I find it funny that I don't typically use any of those on a daily basis XDD!)
The point is that not hourse nor car nor gas nor anything is paid off.
The gov does not give then any extra money because they make just above the fine line between what the government defines as poverty.
So a family living off of half as much could live far better than a family making 16k simply because the governemt pays them and pays them and pays them.
When they get tired of that, they pay them some more XDD!

1. I am leaning towards right-winged.
2. I do not want this bill to pass, but it will anyways. First off, I am not insinuating anything, but I do not want it to pass because the first step in Communism is to take over the public's health access and systems. I'm not saying Obama is a Communist, but I come from a family that has already fled one country because of Communism, and they are really freaked because they do not want to go through it again. Health care should be offered, not mandatory.

Another reason why I am against the Health Care Bill is because I would actually have to pay for my health care. This is unfair to me because I am a member of the Coast Guard. What does this mean? It means that if I get injured on my boat, which is where injuries usually happen, I would have to pay for it. Which would suck, because it was while I am working. Military personnel would have to pay for their health care, meaning we would get less benefits and a lower paycheck, dissuading people from joining the military in the future.

A third reason as to why I am against the Health Care Bill is that in the end, it just doesn't work out. My dad is a financial adviser, and he explained to me that ten years of taxes would pay for four years of the health care bill. There is just no way that our country could financially sustain the bill, and we will see that in a few years.

A fourth reason is because I have read Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand, and it was depressing enough in that to see it happen.

3.I think all of the media coverage on this (except for FOX news), is extremely left-winged, because all of the stuff they have covered on it has been pro. I believe that the media has not been doing the proper job over the years, and have started to get politically influenced in it's coverage, for the left-wing's benefits.

4. Read #2.

I really have no clue. I mean, I have tried reading it, but its a couple thousand pages. Do you really think the people passing the bill have read it? No, they get a skewed summary of it. I don't think anyone knows exactly what this bill involves fully, but I think Congress are just trying to make themselves look good (like in Atlas), by passing a law they don't understand without really thinking of the consequences of it. Doctors and nurses are going to be pissed because they are not going to be paid as well, which will decrease the amount of people going in for the job. This is an extra bad time, because all of the baby boomers are starting to get to the stage of death, which is America's biggest generation. Our health care system is going to be severely crippled due to the fact that no one wants to be a doctor, the need for doctors is going to sky rocket, and the bill cannot pay for itself.

I dunno, the main thing of it is though is that it can't pay for itself. We are already in the hole pretty deep, and when this bill puts us further in, they will implement new taxes which will give us a heavier load to bear. That's another thing I have about this bill. They say it will help the economy. When you do the math, however, it just doesn't add up.