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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:57 pm
So, we all know what he did and what he thinks and what I am wondering is what your take is on him. Do you think he will do the show much good or not? what's your take? Myself, I didn't like the first episode of the new tv show where Spazz Smith's suit is diff from #10 after the regen and he beats his wife.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:38 pm
Michael Jacksons Corpse So, we all know what he did and what he thinks and what I am wondering is what your take is on him. Do you think he will do the show much good or not? what's your take? Myself, I didn't like the first episode of the new tv show where Spazz Smith's suit is diff from #10 after the regen and he beats his wife. confused
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:47 am
Through the mist we walk... I have a problem with his love for the the first Dr. He shows it but then goes off and only focus's on that every time, like every Dr. he has wrote about in his books they all do the first Dr.eeeee type stuff and it gets old. I mean, sure it's not that bad because his stories are short and it's basicly just fan fiction because the stories are short. He has never wrote a full book but his short stories are bad enough because it doesn't matter what Dr. he is writing about, they're always very different than the personality at the time. The Curse of Fatal Death makes many good points of his writing, one of those points being that every Dr. while meant to be very different for the spoof show, everyone of them was nothing like the Dr. they was supposed to be, the personality went out of the window just like his serious writing. And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:40 pm
Your saying he likes #1 but he said the only episode of #1 in the sixties was the first because it was shot on earth and hid the fact that the rest of the series was "s**t" in his words.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:15 pm
Through the mist we walk... lol, I see you have done your home work. I can see your from a different Fan forum that's not based on Gaia. SM is very contradicting but I think he just calls the TV show "s**t" because he is trying to hide that he loves it. I mean, why dislike the first Dr. when he is basing all his books and shows on him? I think he loved it but being SM, he just wants to complain and pretend everything is s**t.
So far he has claimed the Adventure books where bad but couldn't wait to write his short stories in them. Claimed the Virgin New Adventures where an abomination because they're for 11year old kids but aimed at adults and then he goes and writes stories even worst off. He complained about the continuity errors in the books and then writes down stories that have so many non-cannon parts even the publisher sort of rubbed them out of the set. He said he was appalled at PD being so young and found the show to go hand in hand with his lack of experience and then months later went on to say how he was the best Dr. yet, because unlike all the other actors to play the Dr, PD could act and had a lot more roles and a proper career any other actor could only dream of. He was a fan of the first, obviously but he says that the show is like any other TV show and it's just boring. He claimed the TV show was too short then got mad at the books because there was 24 books coming out a year and he found it too much for any kind of story. He said he knew the Dr. could only be played by someone over 40 because the Dr. should be old and weird and like a grandfather that kids look at and want to be, he then goes and cast's MS who is the youngest yet. He said that he believes that the show should always be dark and harsh and yet he has never had a death in any of his stories, books or TV shows to date unless it's because they died of natural causes. He said that people are sometimes bastards and he wanted to get that across, so every bad person or thing he has wrote about turns out to be not that evil because it either is being told to do it or has a need for survival. Then he says that the TV show should be for the older generation only and then goes and makes the TV show to pull in children, teens and bored women. And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:47 pm
eek woah. that's a whole lot of stuff. where exactly did you find out that he said all this?
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:01 am
Through the mist we walk... Well, some of it is interviews at con's and some of it is from BBC interviews made for television. I am sure if you quote his words that I wrote down and do a quick google search you will come across proper websites that have followed one of his interviews and maybe even youtube links. As for being non-cannon and the Dr. always being different in personality, no deaths, overly sexually focused stuff and misspelling a lot of companion names you have to read some of his stories, they're available in virgin and new virgin books and I am sure there is a website out there that details all the books writing, like an e-book but free from a torrent site. No deaths unless natural causes and people who ain't all that evil can be seen in the recent TV show on the episodes he did. Also, a lot of his interviews can be found in DR WHO Confidential and these are 45min episodes that are usually on right after Dr. Who, finishes. They're available on DVD and should be on youtube. Just look for the episode name and the DR WHO Confidential episode will be about the show that was just on, so it should be easy to find. Just look up the ones that are part of his recent TV stories such as "Blind" and "Empty Child"
I don't know where Michael Jacksons Corpse got his info so I am hopeful he will have links to stuff. And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:53 am
well honestly I'm not going by past comments because everyone says "soundbites" for articles or interviews and 99% of the time they say conflicting things. So I'll just wait and see how the episodes go. Plus he's not the only one giving input on the show so I'm sure others will try to steer the show in a good direction.
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:01 am
to ~ Tanubi howd you know? i'm a fan on the official BBC who boards. He is contradicting but don't forget he is also bashing on the the series and the actors but on here everyone defends him even though he is shitting on the show like crazy. the only time i would defend is if i agreed with him and if i did then i wouldn't be watching DR WHO in the first place. To ~ SaphiraStar I get all my stuff from the fans of the BBC board keep it in check and swear by it Click here. but like the other guy said best to read the books and watch dr who confidential and listen to the moffat radio cast's it's all on there in his own voice rather then some website.
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:11 pm
I do like SM. His previous episodes were stunning. I just hope he doesn't do a recurring theme.
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:42 pm
Through the mist we walk... @ Michael Jacksons Corpse I think what it is, And don't get me wrong on this, the guild creator(s) did an amazing job with this guild and people need it but I think what it is, is that if people are seeing the show they're gonna join up on Gaia because it helps them be in a place with other people who are into the show but it's for less experienced fans, I'm not saying everyone here is, but the majority is and that's ok. But as you grow you start to want to explore and learn about the show and you find out more information as you do your research and come to learn about the show, this also changes your opinion on many things of Dr. Who and gives you a new view, you also come across other heavily populated websites just for fans and everyone there has the same opinion as you do because everyone knows what they're talking about. but some people here are not like that yet. I have met a small few being ignorant even when showed they was wrong, then b***h at you for 5mins because you had to go and have an opinion.
It's kinda like the "Human Nature" episode. When I have mentioned that in a few places on Gaia, people sometimes think SM wrote it and that it was great. If I mention that in a dedicated Dr. Who websites forum then like you, you will instantly know that it is a TV show that SM and another writer worked on and it was ripped from a older book that was wrote by Paul Cornell after listening to his grand-daughter talking about school and wondering if it was worst in the olden days. You would also know the other writer came in because it was a direct rip from the book and the other writer had to fix things so Martha would fit in and it seemed realistic and fit in with the rest of the show.
And I think that's why people are defending him here, because they don't really know the stuff we know, back in our forums everyone thinks SM is full of s**t. [EDIT] Then again, back in our forums, everyone is shitting themselves thinking that SM is gonna have the Dr's real name be Steven. And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:16 am
Curse of The Fatal Death was Steven's point and laugh moment at the entire DW show. Quoted from his radio cast "The show was barmy and stupid and it's like a dying cat in these days, it's been going on for so long that you want to put the dry, drull out of it's missery." & "Fatal Death was my take on Doctor Who because it's making me cry out with pain at this pathetic excuse for a life line that is regeneration, even worst is the actors that they get to play the role"
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:46 pm
It was never proven that he beat his wife either.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:11 pm
Personally I think given the chance, Moffat will be the death of the show.. thats my opinion and I dont care if you try to tear me to pieces in forum, send me harsh threatening PMs and I wont bother to comment further in this thread...
'nuff said
/end conversation
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