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 Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:42 am
A new book has been published recently.
It goes by the name of "The Attempted Murder Of God : Hidden Science You Really Need To Know".
I have seen it's name placed in different areas of the net, and just now I have seen it randomly posted in a Youtube comment.
So...I googled it.
Looks pretty interesting, from what I have read on it so far. I think I might actually buy it, and read it a little. It claims to show facts of a God, and belittles the Theory of Evolution.
Words that have been used to explain this book are things such as "Genius", and "Life Changing", so eh...I want to see what the hype is all about.
Info about the book HERE.
More info about the book HERE.
The Author wrote :
"This is a book of hidden science that reveals the fact of God. In so doing, it reveals why human Evolution over millions of years is not true. By demonstrating the transcendent wonder of Nature that can only be the work of God, it unpicks the thread of Evolution in its entirety. Darwin could scarcely have imagined how accurate he was in predicting 'light will be thrown on the origin of man.' What he had in mind, though, was illuminating the Evolution of man from common ancestors with apes, yet light itself shows us he was wrong. The last 300 years have been a proving ground for all of us, showing us in our true colours in the battle for reason and faith, but at this time, and with this book, there can be no more doubts. God is real." Scrooby, 2010
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:15 pm
Hm, this seems interesting. And if it proves what it says it can then this could very well get the evolution experts hot under the collar, as it were...
However there is a worry in my mind. Evolution in itself is probably the second-most controversial issues chatted about in the general public today, aside Michael Jackson and global warming. So whatever this book says, so long as it's in belieavble terms with a few technical words thrown in here and there the public may just swallow it.
Don't attack me on this view as I'm sure I won't be the only one to hold it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:22 pm
I understand what you mean.
Some people will swallow anything they are fed, as long as it sounds intelligent.
Heh, perfect example, last night I actually read up on what exactly Scientology is...I can't honestly believe that millions of people believe in that. It's a joke.
But none the less, I'm interested in checking the book out.
And lol @ Micheal Jackson.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:43 pm
Hey, I just had to namedrop the guy. smile
And as for Scientology... Don't even go there. sad Every time they are mentioned, a Tourniquet Static dies.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:49 pm
Tourniquet Static Hey, I just had to namedrop the guy. smile And as for Scientology... Don't even go there. sad Every time they are mentioned, a Tourniquet Static dies. A Tourniquet Static?
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:52 pm
Shuyajin Tourniquet Static Hey, I just had to namedrop the guy. smile And as for Scientology... Don't even go there. sad Every time they are mentioned, a Tourniquet Static dies. A Tourniquet Static? I'm just one in a line of Tourniquet Statics. We are a long line of intelligent fangirls whose only fault is their apathy and general misanthropy. Oh, and a love of chickens.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:55 pm
Tourniquet Static Shuyajin Tourniquet Static Hey, I just had to namedrop the guy. smile And as for Scientology... Don't even go there. sad Every time they are mentioned, a Tourniquet Static dies. A Tourniquet Static? I'm just one in a line of Tourniquet Statics. We are a long line of intelligent fangirls whose only fault is their apathy and general misanthropy. Oh, and a love of chickens. Weird s**t girl. So one of you dies if ___________ is mentioned?
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:57 pm
Shuyajin Tourniquet Static Shuyajin Tourniquet Static Hey, I just had to namedrop the guy. smile And as for Scientology... Don't even go there. sad Every time they are mentioned, a Tourniquet Static dies. A Tourniquet Static? I'm just one in a line of Tourniquet Statics. We are a long line of intelligent fangirls whose only fault is their apathy and general misanthropy. Oh, and a love of chickens. Weird s**t girl. So one of you dies if ___________ is mentioned? either that or I murder the person who mentioned it. WATCH YOUR BACK. biggrin An I hope you mean "Weird s**t girl" in a good way, *nervous laugh*
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:59 pm
Tourniquet Static Shuyajin Tourniquet Static Shuyajin Tourniquet Static Hey, I just had to namedrop the guy. smile And as for Scientology... Don't even go there. sad Every time they are mentioned, a Tourniquet Static dies. A Tourniquet Static? I'm just one in a line of Tourniquet Statics. We are a long line of intelligent fangirls whose only fault is their apathy and general misanthropy. Oh, and a love of chickens. Weird s**t girl. So one of you dies if ___________ is mentioned? either that or I murder the person who mentioned it. WATCH YOUR BACK. biggrin An I hope you mean "Weird s**t girl" in a good way, *nervous laugh* I mean it in, 'wow, that is weird..'
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:57 pm
Gonna go out on a limb here and post my own personal beliefs. Please don't be dissuaded from seeking the truth just because I've decided to believe something you don't see yourself ever believing. Always good to read up on different material, even if it isn't what you believe in personally, so you can understand both sides. Personally I've already done my god-searching and know both sides. I did an extensive review of ALL religions and beliefs for nearly a year and I still continue to. To me, ancient religions plus brand new ideas/concepts hold the key. To summarize, I believe many of the ancient gods and goddess's were close relatives of the aliens who created mankind. I do believe in evolution, I just don't believe mankind evolved on it's own from this planet. I've found plenty of evidence of the same stories being told over and over again (creation myths of mankind made from "dirt", Eden, apples of knowledge or long life, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark, the deluge/flood, and more) and it all starts with the Sumerian Tablets (the first civilization with writing). Also, almost all ancient religions speak of giants (think 8 feet, not higher). I've come to love Greek/Roman and especially Norse mythology. There's even a Norse ship that flew over land and sea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkÃðblaðnirOn the other side to the story. I believe you can find god with psychedelics, but I have yet to find him.. er.. it.. for myself. People who take DMT (it's extracted from some plants, and your brain also produces it naturally in your pineal gland) say the "trip" they go on connects them to the other dimension. It's the same thing the shaman do now and have done for thousands of years. They do psychedelics to talk to the ancestors. So to me, God is not a deity, not an entity, not a he, not a she, it's an energy force that gives life to the things of the universe and connects us after death to the other dimension. Thus, god can not speak. I biggest wish is to have our creator's ancestors come out in the open to visit humanity before I die. I want to meet them. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke quotes (English Writer of science fiction, b.1917)
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:11 am
Truth Seeker May Gonna go out on a limb here and post my own personal beliefs. Please don't be dissuaded from seeking the truth just because I've decided to believe something you don't see yourself ever believing. Always good to read up on different material, even if it isn't what you believe in personally, so you can understand both sides. Personally I've already done my god-searching and know both sides. I did an extensive review of ALL religions and beliefs for nearly a year and I still continue to. To me, ancient religions plus brand new ideas/concepts hold the key. To summarize, I believe many of the ancient gods and goddess's were close relatives of the aliens who created mankind. I do believe in evolution, I just don't believe mankind evolved on it's own from this planet. I've found plenty of evidence of the same stories being told over and over again (creation myths of mankind made from "dirt", Eden, apples of knowledge or long life, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark, the deluge/flood, and more) and it all starts with the Sumerian Tablets (the first civilization with writing). Also, almost all ancient religions speak of giants (think 8 feet, not higher). I've come to love Greek/Roman and especially Norse mythology. There's even a Norse ship that flew over land and sea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkÃðblaðnirOn the other side to the story. I believe you can find god with psychedelics, but I have yet to find him.. er.. it.. for myself. People who take DMT (it's extracted from some plants, and your brain also produces it naturally in your pineal gland) say the "trip" they go on connects them to the other dimension. It's the same thing the shaman do now and have done for thousands of years. They do psychedelics to talk to the ancestors. So to me, God is not a deity, not an entity, not a he, not a she, it's an energy force that gives life to the things of the universe and connects us after death to the other dimension. Thus, god can not speak. I biggest wish is to have our creator's ancestors come out in the open to visit humanity before I die. I want to meet them."Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke quotes (English Writer of science fiction, b.1917) I am so sorry and if this sounds rude I really don't mean it to be. Ever since joining this Guild, I have had mixed feelings about your conspiracy facts. Some I believe, some I find ridiculous. I honestly say this in all respect, for you know I have nothing but respect for your obvious intelligence: From what I put in bold, you think mankind was created by aliens that appear in Norse and other ancient religions? I wonder how you got to this conclusion. I personally am divided on the whole alien thing. And religion itself. You see, I was raised (and still am being raised) in a Catholic family. Sternly moving away from stereotypes, we are not Church fanatics. However from a young age I knew I had no belief in the teachings, and I declared myself agnostic until further notice- I am open to everything. At 13 years old (don't underestimate my knowledge due to my age) it's a little early for me to dismiss any God in all forms. I'm quite puzzled how you came to think aliens created us. I myself am still shaky about belief in extraterrestrial life. There is to be totally honest, and I'm sure you'll agree, no firm proof, though there is evidence as it were. And you say you believe in evolution, but that we didn't evolve on our own. Would you be so kind as to shed light on this? Do you think we were reared by a superhuman race with high IQ? I mean, for all I know, if there IS alien life then they could be our undergraduates in exsistence, if you catch my drift. And how can you possibly believe in evoulution when aliens are the cause behind this? I'm so sorry if I sound idiotic, I'm just slightly baffled by these sudden peculiar revelations!
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:52 pm
Heh...that Alien creating Human theory is some scary s**t.
But I have looked into it slightly before, just to get an idea of it, and the coincidences are crazy.
Especially when it comes to Mayans, and old pictures that shows we have been visited by alien forms before.
But growing up, Aliens were my number one thing I was scared up, so I really don't like to get into all that. x__x;;
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:48 pm
Tourniquet Static Truth Seeker May Gonna go out on a limb here and post my own personal beliefs. Please don't be dissuaded from seeking the truth just because I've decided to believe something you don't see yourself ever believing. Always good to read up on different material, even if it isn't what you believe in personally, so you can understand both sides. Personally I've already done my god-searching and know both sides. I did an extensive review of ALL religions and beliefs for nearly a year and I still continue to. To me, ancient religions plus brand new ideas/concepts hold the key. To summarize, I believe many of the ancient gods and goddess's were close relatives of the aliens who created mankind. I do believe in evolution, I just don't believe mankind evolved on it's own from this planet. I've found plenty of evidence of the same stories being told over and over again (creation myths of mankind made from "dirt", Eden, apples of knowledge or long life, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark, the deluge/flood, and more) and it all starts with the Sumerian Tablets (the first civilization with writing). Also, almost all ancient religions speak of giants (think 8 feet, not higher). I've come to love Greek/Roman and especially Norse mythology. There's even a Norse ship that flew over land and sea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkÃðblaðnirOn the other side to the story. I believe you can find god with psychedelics, but I have yet to find him.. er.. it.. for myself. People who take DMT (it's extracted from some plants, and your brain also produces it naturally in your pineal gland) say the "trip" they go on connects them to the other dimension. It's the same thing the shaman do now and have done for thousands of years. They do psychedelics to talk to the ancestors. So to me, God is not a deity, not an entity, not a he, not a she, it's an energy force that gives life to the things of the universe and connects us after death to the other dimension. Thus, god can not speak. I biggest wish is to have our creator's ancestors come out in the open to visit humanity before I die. I want to meet them."Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke quotes (English Writer of science fiction, b.1917) I am so sorry and if this sounds rude I really don't mean it to be. Ever since joining this Guild, I have had mixed feelings about your conspiracy facts. Some I believe, some I find ridiculous. I honestly say this in all respect, for you know I have nothing but respect for your obvious intelligence: From what I put in bold, you think mankind was created by aliens that appear in Norse and other ancient religions? I wonder how you got to this conclusion. I personally am divided on the whole alien thing. And religion itself. You see, I was raised (and still am being raised) in a Catholic family. Sternly moving away from stereotypes, we are not Church fanatics. However from a young age I knew I had no belief in the teachings, and I declared myself agnostic until further notice- I am open to everything. At 13 years old (don't underestimate my knowledge due to my age) it's a little early for me to dismiss any God in all forms. I'm quite puzzled how you came to think aliens created us. I myself am still shaky about belief in extraterrestrial life. There is to be totally honest, and I'm sure you'll agree, no firm proof, though there is evidence as it were. And you say you believe in evolution, but that we didn't evolve on our own. Would you be so kind as to shed light on this? Do you think we were reared by a superhuman race with high IQ? I mean, for all I know, if there IS alien life then they could be our undergraduates in exsistence, if you catch my drift. And how can you possibly believe in evoulution when aliens are the cause behind this? I'm so sorry if I sound idiotic, I'm just slightly baffled by these sudden peculiar revelations! Evolution is a very plausible theory, I see no reason to discredit it. The aliens who made us probably evolved on their own back on their planet. Humans could have too, but we sure do lack the evidence linking us to apes. Our chromosomes reveal that other apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes while humans have 23 pairs.. How did we lose a chromosome? I think aliens just sped up the process of humanoid evolution on Earth. I think Homo Erectus was created by the aliens of Sumerian religion. The important names are Anu, Enki, Enlil and the goddess Ninmah/Ninhursag. They race were giants. Then their kind bred with the Homo Erectus to make Homo Sapiens. Ever heard of the bible's Nephilim? The Fallen Angels who bred with mankind. That story was taken out of the bible though. All other religions tend to copy Sumerian stories to some extent (since it was the first civilization with writing). The tablets say they intentionally made mankind as gold miners. They also say they came from another planet (Zecharia Sitchin says Nibiru, and that they needed the gold as an atmospheric shield for their planet, but I've also heard that they ate gold powder) and they do a lot of traveling to and from Mars and the Moon and wore "eagle suits". The ancient Sumerians accounted for all the planets in our solar system. How can primitive man do this without technology or teachings? And why would the first civilization with writing, write LIES upon LIES?? It makes more sense to me that they were recording what they knew of their history. As for the belief in aliens, it's far more plausible than a belief in a God deity that can speak. Ancient art all through history has evidence of alien craft. And considering how huge the universe is, there has to be other intelligent life out there, and not just one kind, but many races. I've watched enough video clips to honestly believe alien craft are here on earth presently. MC Relevant: I totally understand being so scared of something that you don't want to research it. Growing up I was terrified of the existence of Ghosts, so to this day I have done very little research on them. I still need to confirm or deny their existence.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:55 am
Truth Seeker May Tourniquet Static I'm not going against anyone's beliefs here but this is just a little TOO experimental for me as it were. To be honest, this is a little bit unplausible, and if you had told me this theory one year ago I would have called you a madman (I was a little less tolerant then you see.) Though let not what I say offend you. I mean this in no malicious manner. For me, recently I have found I believe more in the Buddhist way of life, but there are some parts I have trouble accepting. Religion is all so hard for me. There is still a fear of the Catholic Hell, and I can't work out if that is a subconsious urge to return to my former, more comfortable religion and conform to something I feel is little more than a fairytale, or the result of an overbearing family member insistent I am doomed if I can't follow the scriptures. I suppose this makes me a Doubting Thomas, but I have a genuine fear of death- not because of the actual dying but because I am unsure of what lies beyond. Would it be too bold to enquire your take on the "afterlife"? That being if you believe in one, of course.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:58 pm
My crazy take on the after life is that there is another dimension when you die. It's heaven to some, hell to others, it all depends on how you perceive it. When you are in there, it's probably a lot like dreaming and time might be perceived differently. Supposedly there is an entity (think underworld gods that take your soul across the river on a boat, or the Matrix's Train man) that guides your soul in the right direction, but some people are too scared to follow it (oo a scary grim reaper!) and end up as ghosts (I don't even know if ghosts are real or not yet lol). When you are dead, your spirit/soul goes to the same place all our ancestors and all dead but once living things of the universe go. You can have visitors from this place in your dreams, and you can connect to ancestors in this place without dieing by taking DMT psychedelics (the shaman do it too), or by fasting and meditation and/or isolation out in the woods or whatever. I believe there is probably a reincarnation factor to all this too, but everything I just said is theory of course. I haven't even tried psychedelics before, but I have read many accounts from people who have and claim they met entities their mind could not have created. Reincarnation is one thing that could be provable, as some children are born remembering their past lives, and there are many documented cases of children knowing things about other families that they shouldn't know. Considering the world has more humans on it now than it ever has before, people claim reincarnation is flawed because there are more people than souls. But here's two things to think about. 1, there could be a surplus of souls from another planet, and 2, why can't "god" create new souls? A lot of the souls on earth could be first generation rather than reincarnations.
IDK, that's what I've set my mind to believe. It might be crazy to yall but it's no crazier than any other religion IMO.
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