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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:05 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:47 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:22 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:44 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:04 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:48 am
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:37 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:36 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:04 pm
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:03 pm
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:08 pm
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:28 pm
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:37 pm
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Qyp Akherontis That's what the guild is here for. It saddens me sometimes when Apollon and Artemis get all the credit, while Helios and Selene are marginalized. The Archaic Greeks were entirely consistent in their belief that Helios drew the sun through the sky and Selene the moon. Even the later Hellenistic Greeks still attributed those functions to Helios and Selene, although by then Apollon and Artemis had acquired certain minor solar/lunar associations. The Romans still considered Sol and Luna to the the primary gods of the celestial lights, although some of Selene's myth was transferred to Diana rather than Luna. Jupiter, Juno and Minerva? Now they are just a fusion of the old Tinia, Uni and Merva of the Etruscan mythology from Italy, and the Greek Mythology stories during Roman Empire times, I presume. Stories and names get mixed up so easily when there is similarities in the characters of those stories...
In a sense, you are correct. But Jupiter ultimately derives from the proto-Indo-European Dyeus Pater. The same can be said for Zeus (whose genitive is Dios), and the Vedic deity Dyaus Pitar, and the Etruscan Tinia. You are definitely accurate in stating that the Romans did not just adopt and mutate the Greek Gods. The Etruscans were also great influences, as were Persian deities like Mithras. One must also account for the Di Indigetes of the Italians themselves. Janus is a very interesting case. He may be a szygy of Apollo and Diana (via the spelling Iana).
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:42 pm
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Akherontis Qyp Akherontis That's what the guild is here for. It saddens me sometimes when Apollon and Artemis get all the credit, while Helios and Selene are marginalized. The Archaic Greeks were entirely consistent in their belief that Helios drew the sun through the sky and Selene the moon. Even the later Hellenistic Greeks still attributed those functions to Helios and Selene, although by then Apollon and Artemis had acquired certain minor solar/lunar associations. The Romans still considered Sol and Luna to the the primary gods of the celestial lights, although some of Selene's myth was transferred to Diana rather than Luna. Jupiter, Juno and Minerva? Now they are just a fusion of the old Tinia, Uni and Merva of the Etruscan mythology from Italy, and the Greek Mythology stories during Roman Empire times, I presume. Stories and names get mixed up so easily when there is similarities in the characters of those stories... In a sense, you are correct. But Jupiter ultimately derives from the proto-Indo-European Dyeus Pater. The same can be said for Zeus (whose genitive is Dios), and the Vedic deity Dyaus Pitar, and the Etruscan Tinia. You are definitely accurate in stating that the Romans did not just adopt and mutate the Greek Gods. The Etruscans were also great influences, as were Persian deities like Mithras. One must also account for the Di Indigetes of the Italians themselves. Janus is a very interesting case. He may be a szygy of Apollo and Diana (via the spelling Iana). The world is made from Chinese whispers...
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