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 Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:44 am
Do you think Adam is sinned by my sedition? if so, in the name of my sedetition, who is guilty? Im actually doing what God tells me to do, and i entirely obeys Allah's will, what do you expect me to do? no cavity is unattached from It's authority! Im no master of my own will.
My obeisance to Allah for 700tausand years! No place left of the sky nor earth where i did not pray in Its name, "Ya Allah, Adam's descendant reject You, but You are always generous and enchances them. But I. I that always love and rightly praise You, You made me into something despicable and ugly".
Look at all the suffering and misery that Allah create to the world. Look at that "God" do to please It-self. It made something that seems pure into something stained. Changing sweet into bitter. It made something valuable into a garbage. Nothing more than just a Clown or a Cheap Magician, Mad. And Its madness just keeps making me mad, mad & more mad!Al-Shawni
Madness of God
If God is so powerful and nothing in this world that happens without Its permission, how can Its creation is blamed from what they sinned?
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:09 am
HollywoodNobody Im no master of my own will. The problem is that we HAVE free will, God gave us the option to sin, if he deprived us of our free will, there would be no sin in this world, because we would not be able to make our own choices. Essentially we would all be mindless robots.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:40 am
Lost Journeyer HollywoodNobody Im no master of my own will. The problem is that we HAVE free will, God gave us the option to sin, if he deprived us of our free will, there would be no sin in this world, because we would not be able to make our own choices. Essentially we would all be mindless robots. so if God deprive us of our free there will be no sin? but the problem is there is sin even if we are a mindless robot... we think we have choice... but we actually dont...everything is what God wants it to be.... even ur post there... there is no single thing that is not controlled by God... why.... cause God is all knowing... God knows that demons will betrayed It-self before God even created them.. what? do you think there is something God doesnt know? "Lets see... Ill create this entity from fire & let see what happens" no... God always knows every ending before there is a begining it self
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:10 pm
The Abramatic god (the god of the Bible) has always been petty and cruel. I have never interpreted him as a benevolent deity but rather a malevolent overlord.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:35 pm
We were given free will to choose, Just as you are doing now, yet GOD has not struck you down or killed you for speaking as you do, so all the cruelty. according to you should certainly be on its way to you. especially since HE is in control.
Of course I do believe GOD is merciful and good, so you will be able to continue to stand for what you believe, and exercise your free will. smile
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:39 pm
I don't completely understand what you're trying to say.
What pleasure would a god get from causing people to suffer?
Are you saying that God is just sadistic and lets things like war and disease happen because it's entertaining?
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:24 pm
You have to remember that, even though I don't believe in a deity, God is said to be a being of unlimited power. Pretty much, he can do whatever he desires.
This includes bending the rules others make for him.
That and existing outside the universe. (Even though that doesn't make sense.)
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:47 pm
brainnsoup What pleasure would a god get from causing people to suffer? Sadistic entertainment. Haven't you ever laughed when something bad happened to a character on a sit-com? I imagine it would be the same thing for "God" and people on Earth. We're nothing but characters in his sit-com.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:05 pm
DaikonNairu -Ren- brainnsoup What pleasure would a god get from causing people to suffer? Sadistic entertainment. Haven't you ever laughed when something bad happened to a character on a sit-com? I imagine it would be the same thing for "God" and people on Earth. We're nothing but characters in his sit-com.
Though I guess it would make sense if God is purely a sadist.
XD This reminds me of a thread from the GAU back from I used to frequent it about God being a kid playing The Sims.
I wanted them to live long lives and help them succeed.
But I couldn't resist telling them to go for a swim and removing the ladders...
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:19 pm
brainnsoup But I couldn't resist telling them to go for a swim and removing the ladders... See, there's a little bit of sadistic god in all of us. And the bible does say that we were made in his image. Ever evil humans are capable of committing is an evil that exists within "god".
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:05 pm
Captain_Shinzo You have to remember that, even though I don't believe in a deity, God is said to be a being of unlimited power. Pretty much, he can do whatever he desires.
This includes bending the rules others make for him.
That and existing outside the universe. (Even though that doesn't make sense.) nice.... real nice.... well said... iv actually find my own answer.... i just want to know different opinions from different people... carry on people... there is no right or wrong... just pour out what u think...
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:23 pm
God is a cat, and we are merely it's disgruntled cat toys.
My logic, God does what it likes, so do cats.
God likes to play games, so do cats.
God can be a malicious b*****d, so can cats.
Plus most cats have quite the cushy deal on earth. They don't work like dogs do, they simply laze about, or hunt, and food is often provided for them. How's that for a land of milk and honey? ;D ((not that cats can have milk, most are lactose intolerant)).
@ Daikon - from my study of ancient religions (it's an addiction) I found Ba'al was once the name used for the Jewish god (and just about every other in the area as an honourific). So it amused me greatly when Ba'al was a g'ould in Stargate, and no one else picked that up.
I've never been able to understand the complete change of tack by God in the Bible from the old to new testament...unless he'd been smoking something interesting. One of the many reasons I'm not christian.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:42 pm
Catharia @ Daikon - from my study of ancient religions (it's an addiction) I found Ba'al was once the name used for the Jewish god (and just about every other in the area as an honourific). So it amused me greatly when Ba'al was a g'ould in Stargate, and no one else picked that up. I've never been able to understand the complete change of tack by God in the Bible from the old to new testament...unless he'd been smoking something interesting. One of the many reasons I'm not christian. You made me LOL. rofl
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:09 pm
Catharia God is a cat, and we are merely it's disgruntled cat toys. My logic, God does what it likes, so do cats. God likes to play games, so do cats. God can be a malicious b*****d, so can cats. Plus most cats have quite the cushy deal on earth. They don't work like dogs do, they simply laze about, or hunt, and food is often provided for them. How's that for a land of milk and honey? ;D ((not that cats can have milk, most are lactose intolerant)). God is unlimited.... even the word unlimited cant reach at al... "God does what It likes to do".... si basicly God can do something that It doesnt like to do if God wants it to... get it?
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:35 pm
DaikonNairu -Ren- brainnsoup But I couldn't resist telling them to go for a swim and removing the ladders... See, there's a little bit of sadistic god in all of us. And the bible does say that we were made in his image. Ever evil humans are capable of committing is an evil that exists within "god".
At least, I never felt love for my Sims. If I ever really wanted them to succeed, it was only for the little animation...
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