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Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:11 pm


You know, the stereotypes from denomination to denomination.



Like the Orthodox Jewish stereotype of being elitist and sexist and saying, "You're doing it wrong! Only we are doing it right! Everyone else isn't really Jewish!"

And the Reform Jewish stereotype of being lazy non-Jews who say, "So what if I eat pork and practically worship Christ? I'm still Jewish by my own standards!"



You know, those.
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And to give my answer, as a Reform Jew I am personally insulted by the above Reform stereotype, but I sadly have to accept that its basic message is true of many Reform Jews I've met.

And I know several Orthododx Jews who defy the stereotype.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:16 pm


I feel that they are true to a certain extent.

You need to spend time in Israel, there's a HUGE gap between the Chassidic and everyone else.

Someone I know told me that the Chassidic rabbi here will bring his OWN DISHES to her synagogue because he's accused the Conservatives of not being kosher enough.

In Medias Res IV


Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:24 pm


In Medias Res IV
I feel that they are true to a certain extent.

You need to spend time in Israel, there's a HUGE gap between the Chassidic and everyone else.

Someone I know told me that the Chassidic rabbi here will bring his OWN DISHES to her synagogue because he's accused the Conservatives of not being kosher enough.

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.



At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:27 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew
In Medias Res IV
I feel that they are true to a certain extent.

You need to spend time in Israel, there's a HUGE gap between the Chassidic and everyone else.

Someone I know told me that the Chassidic rabbi here will bring his OWN DISHES to her synagogue because he's accused the Conservatives of not being kosher enough.

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.



At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"


UGH!

I have many problems with the Chassids.

In Medias Res IV


Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:32 pm


In Medias Res IV
Lumanny the Space Jew
In Medias Res IV
I feel that they are true to a certain extent.

You need to spend time in Israel, there's a HUGE gap between the Chassidic and everyone else.

Someone I know told me that the Chassidic rabbi here will bring his OWN DISHES to her synagogue because he's accused the Conservatives of not being kosher enough.

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.



At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"


UGH!

I have many problems with the Chassids.

You do understand, he never said any of that. Those are just jokes based on the way he has been known to view the female sex.

Although once, when he was teaching my Hebrew class, we had to correct the grammar of some common expressions, including "A woman is a difficult creature to live with." As I recall a female was called on to correct the grammar on that one.
But I digress. That one was the textbook's exercise, not the Rabbi.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:36 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.

At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"


Options 2 and 3 are a bit sexist.
Option 1 is just in favour of separating the genders, which of course I'm cool with being a Muslim. I dont think seperating the sexes is sexist x3


I dont really know about the stereotypes of the sects or how they look, but sometimes when i hear someone I'm like "They're totally a New Yorker Jew" It seems the Jews in New York have a distinct accent, which just so happens to go great with your Yiddish / Hebrew words you use xD

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Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:40 pm


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Lumanny the Space Jew

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.

At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"


Options 2 and 3 are a bit sexist.
Option 1 is just in favour of separating the genders, which of course I'm cool with being a Muslim. I dont think seperating the sexes is sexist x3


I dont really know about the stereotypes of the sects or how they look, but sometimes when i hear someone I'm like "They're totally a New Yorker Jew" It seems the Jews in New York have a distinct accent, which just so happens to go great with your Yiddish / Hebrew words you use xD

No, I mean between Reform, Reconstructionist, Conservative, Orthodox, etc.

The orthodox are usually stereotyped as elitist sexists who believe that their way of life is the only right way to life and who believe that their men are superior to everyone else, even their women. Especially their women.

We Reform Jews are usually stereotyped as not really displaying any sign of being Jewish at all and in fact acting like Non-Jews all the time, but still calling ourselves Jewish by our own standard.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:49 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew
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Lumanny the Space Jew

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.

At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"


Options 2 and 3 are a bit sexist.
Option 1 is just in favour of separating the genders, which of course I'm cool with being a Muslim. I dont think seperating the sexes is sexist x3


I dont really know about the stereotypes of the sects or how they look, but sometimes when i hear someone I'm like "They're totally a New Yorker Jew" It seems the Jews in New York have a distinct accent, which just so happens to go great with your Yiddish / Hebrew words you use xD

No, I mean between Reform, Reconstructionist, Conservative, Orthodox, etc.

The orthodox are usually stereotyped as elitist sexists who believe that their way of life is the only right way to life and who believe that their men are superior to everyone else, even their women. Especially their women.

We Reform Jews are usually stereotyped as not really displaying any sign of being Jewish at all and in fact acting like Non-Jews all the time, but still calling ourselves Jewish by our own standard.



I think it's going to differ between rabbis, but the chabad rabbi here is definitely a sexist elitist.

The Chabad stereotypes are the only ones that I think have any grain of truth to them.

In Medias Res IV


Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:58 pm


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Lumanny the Space Jew
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Lumanny the Space Jew

Well, that certainly fits the stereotype. To the letter, actually.

At my school there's this Orthodox Rabbi who's kind of sexist and who can't stand the boys and girls hugging eachother around school. Everyone's always making jokes about him.

In one joke, the Rabbi discovers that the all-school assembly is not gender-separated by a mechitzah. He adresses the crowd with three options:
1.) The boys and girls separate into separate groups.
2.)The girls all go home.
3.)The girls all go to the Cafeteria kitchen and clean up until the assembly is finished.

There was one joke where a particularly feminist teacher of mine says that the school should be an all-girls school and this Rabbi says, "You might as well just turn this place into a kitchen!"


Options 2 and 3 are a bit sexist.
Option 1 is just in favour of separating the genders, which of course I'm cool with being a Muslim. I dont think seperating the sexes is sexist x3


I dont really know about the stereotypes of the sects or how they look, but sometimes when i hear someone I'm like "They're totally a New Yorker Jew" It seems the Jews in New York have a distinct accent, which just so happens to go great with your Yiddish / Hebrew words you use xD

No, I mean between Reform, Reconstructionist, Conservative, Orthodox, etc.

The orthodox are usually stereotyped as elitist sexists who believe that their way of life is the only right way to life and who believe that their men are superior to everyone else, even their women. Especially their women.

We Reform Jews are usually stereotyped as not really displaying any sign of being Jewish at all and in fact acting like Non-Jews all the time, but still calling ourselves Jewish by our own standard.



I think it's going to differ between rabbis, but the chabad rabbi here is definitely a sexist elitist.

The Chabad stereotypes are the only ones that I think have any grain of truth to them.

The message of the Reform Stereotype is also true for almost all of the Reform Jews I know.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:33 pm


I just hate being lumped in with those Reform Jews who have never attended a prayer service in their lives and don't even believe in G-d but still call themselves Jewish.

I am extremely religious. But as soon as you say 'I'm a Reform Jew,' they write you off as an atheist who just calls himself Jewish.

Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:39 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew
I just hate being lumped in with those Reform Jews who have never attended a prayer service in their lives and don't even believe in G-d but still call themselves Jewish.

I am extremely religious. But as soon as you say 'I'm a Reform Jew,' they write you off as an atheist who just calls himself Jewish.
I know what you mean. I'm conservative, but my best friend is reform, and sometimes it seems like shes been to more services then me. She always gets angry when people make a comment about reform not actually being jewish.
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