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Valheita

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:37 pm


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Working on a checkout, I get a lot of time to experience the depths of stupidity that humans can achieve, and at the same time these morons look down their noses at me because I'm merely a checkout operator.

So in that regard, yeah. I'd say the comic is true.

However... I, in my lack of empathy, fail to see how some people think that way. To use overused high-school cliches.. preps and jocks don't exactly seem all that concerned about being edgy and different. They appear perfectly content to be sheep (you can tell which stereotype I view them from huh?).

Really, I dare say it's only the more nerd/geek/otherwise-socially-outcast groups that view others as sheep because they have interests outside the popular.

Does this then mean that the bus must be full of nerds, or is my appraisal of common high-school stereotypes incorrect?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:49 pm


I think the comic is saying this:
Jock: "Look at these people. Glassy-eyed..."
Nerd: "Look at these people..."
Cheerleader-ditz: "Look at these pathetic people..."
Emo-like person: "Look at these damned foolish people..."

Basically saying, they all think about the other as the same thing, though they may not realize this themselves. They mostly don't care about you thinking about them as sheep in any case, because they see you as that way and not that in themselves.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:14 pm


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I think the comic is saying this:
Jock: "Look at these people. Glassy-eyed..."
Nerd: "Look at these people..."
Cheerleader-ditz: "Look at these pathetic people..."
Emo-like person: "Look at these damned foolish people..."

Basically saying, they all think about the other as the same thing, though they may not realize this themselves. They mostly don't care about you thinking about them as sheep in any case, because they see you as that way and not that in themselves.
So the exact wording differs, but the sentiment is the same?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:27 pm


You haven't seen human stupidity until you've seen This.




And to the comic:
I do that. A lot. But I don't think it's with nerds an' the like.
It's among the chaotic.
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Lawful beings are happy being sheep. Hence paladins.
Chaotic beings are not content being mere sheep. Hence rogues.

And neutral beings...... Don't give a damn. Hence NPC classes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:31 pm


Rogues ftw.

Probably the worst part of that email is... they probably think we're the idiots D:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:31 am


Baaahh~

One's self seems to try to find what separates them from other people, and often do not differentiate the other people separately from their entity of other people-ness when they do not have a vested interest to separate them.
What motivates one to separate themselves from the others might be the individualistic tendency?

Not sure if I worded that coherently.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:49 pm


D: Wut's wrong about being a Lambo?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:19 pm


You're unique, just like everybody else.

I always giggle when thinking about goth/emo/ punk kids trying to be rebel by piercing their noses and getting band tees and weird tattoos. Funny, while attempting to stick out, you look like a carbon copy of every other emo/goth/punk kid.

Honestly, nonconforming for the sake of nonconformity is still letting society influence the way you act.

If you try to be different, you're only demonstrating that you're just as affected by society as everyone else. Someone who truly doesn't care doesn't stop liking something when everyone else starts liking it or thinks its cool. Other people like doing it? Great. They don't like doing other hobbies I do? That's fine, too.

I think what that comic is trying to say is that everyone thinks that way about everyone else but themselves.

Go to a highschool and ask a jock or a nerd or a prep or a punk if they think they're unique. They'll say yes. Ask them if everyone should be the same (just generally). They'll say no.

Everybody has a personal story or background. All people have good times and bad times. They have dialogues with random strangers on the street. They buy groceries. They wait in line. They stare out the window and daydream on the ride home. We are all the main characters in our own show.

I'll admit. It seems to me that a lot of "preps" and "jocks" (my god, I hate those words, trying to categorize people is so. . . high school) are braindead. They just don't seem to think. Then again, I'm a bit of a loner. I've had lots of time to just sit and think and do nothing and think. They might not have. They might not have been encouraged to or had the chance.

People don't choose to like things in order to fit in. That's not how it works, exactly. We might see people enjoying something, so we try it. And then if we see other people enjoying it, it gives us a disposition of "wow, this is gonna be fun" before we even try it. And if we go in thinking like that, there's a good probability that we'll come out thinking that same thing.

People of cliques tend to like the same music. Is it because they're consciously trying to follow someone? No. But say someone's friends shows them 10 bands. Of those 10 bands that they listen to, they like three or four of them. And they begin to follow them. But because they weren't part of other cliques, they haven't been exposed to other bands or styles of music. So, they only identify with one style of music. You're not going to be a preppy girl into punk music if you've never listened to punk music (or enough of it to find something you like).

There is a lot of precious to wear certain labels and s**t, but it's also much simpler than that. You go with your friends to the mall and they gravitate towards a certain store a lot. You buy something you like there. So you might go back on your own later on.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:19 pm


Everyone thinks they're different. It's nothing new really.

When being specific it may be true but when you simplify it people are extremely alike. That's why you can often guess what they're thinking based on how they say something or how they act.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:04 pm


Life’s pretty good, and why wouldn’t it be?

People always say that the "out group" is all the same and that their "in group" are different. It's how people work and rationalise their world and their hates. It's been proven by countless psychologists.
I’m a pirate, after all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:14 am


peoplers
Life’s pretty good, and why wouldn’t it be?

People always say that the "out group" is all the same and that their "in group" are different. It's how people work and rationalise their world and their hates. It's been proven by countless psychologists.
I’m a pirate, after all.

Yup.

That's why stereotypes exist: People decide everyone else is the same. Stereotypes do have a speck of truth in that there are people who embody the stereotype, deliberately or not, but it is far more likely that someone only has a few traits of a stereotype and gets the other traits applied to them by people who are prejudging them.

Stereotypes, in it's most basic form, is a result of order. People naturally want to fit things into convenient boxes, including other people. The only problem with that is most people aren't square-shaped. xp
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