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 Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:31 pm
So what do you all say to this?
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:24 pm
There is no way Christianity and Science can support The Big-Bang, even if you think God is not God of the world, but God of the Big Bang, its logically impossible, something had to create us because there was absolutely nothing in the beginning until God created the earth. I have friend who keeps trying to argue that the Big-Bang, is more logical than the existence of God ((which it is not)), he says that the Bible does not say how long one of God's days is, it doesn't say he's right but i argue this "Why would God make tell man what to write in the Bible that wouldn't make sense to us?" Ponder that...
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:45 pm
Curse-of-the-Phoenix There is no way Christianity and Science can support The Big-Bang, even if you think God is not God of the world, but God of the Big Bang, its logically impossible, something had to create us because there was absolutely nothing in the beginning until God created the earth. I have friend who keeps trying to argue that the Big-Bang, is more logical than the existence of God ((which it is not)), he says that the Bible does not say how long one of God's days is, it doesn't say he's right but i argue this "Why would God make tell man what to write in the Bible that wouldn't make sense to us?" Ponder that... I do now let me explain why. First off it doesn't contradict anything that The Bible says. When God says 'let their be' it doesn't say how it came to be. Now secondly is the expansion of the universe itself. Astrologist's have noticed that the galaxies are going farther and farther apart, showing a certain beginning point. Thirdly let me explain what the big bang states it states that 'Everything in the universe began as a ball of condensed matter, that one day went 'BOOM!''. This is not an alternative to the beginning of the universe, but how the universe came to be what it is. We still need an explanation of how that condensed ball came to be, because as we all know, nothing can't make something. I believe that the big bang is what God used to cause the universe to be what it is. While everything was settling down, he made the stars, and the planets the way he wanted them to be.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:02 pm
Okay first things first, Astrologers are people who "Tell the Future" by the stars i think you mean Astronomers, my answer is we will never know how the universe came to be, but i find it more logical that God just created the universe yes it doesn't say how but God is a spiritual being he can do anything and the most our minds can conjure up is
A: it just appeared
B: a giant explosion
Neither i think are logical in the slightest I'm trying to find common ground but its impossible, and i think that god may have just combined different ingredients ((for lack of a better word)) at a molecular level to create what we know as H20 water, LN2, Oxygen, trees and the air so in a sense i lean towards Option A, Because A and B are our to extremes and i believe that neither one of them is right, but when you put it that way like you did in your post, it makes a bit more sense.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:22 pm
Curse-of-the-Phoenix Okay first things first, Astrologers are people who "Tell the Future" by the stars i think you mean Astronomers, my answer is we will never know how the universe came to be, but i find it more logical that God just created the universe yes it doesn't say how but God is a spiritual being he can do anything and the most our minds can conjure up is A: it just appeared B: a giant explosion Neither i think are logical in the slightest I'm trying to find common ground but its impossible, and i think that god may have just combined different ingredients ((for lack of a better word)) at a molecular level to create what we know as H20 water, LN2, Oxygen, trees and the air so in a sense i lean towards Option A, Because A and B are our to extremes and i believe that neither one of them is right, but when you put it that way like you did in your post, it makes a bit more sense. Sorry half asleep at the moment lol. Both entirely logical. More so than 'it just appeared' or 'nothing made something'. But, you are correct in that, it can only be assumption, but I think that the expansion of the universe shows evidence for the big bang. And the bible says nothing against it so it seems fine to me. It's even a good argument for God.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:30 pm
((oops i have to post a warning in my siggi))
Youre not the only one half asleep.
Of course there could be other reasons the Galaxys are moving away from eachother but the Big Bang is a good explantation.
((the Link to the U.S debt clock crashed my moms comp so thats why))
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:10 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:09 pm
yep (i changed it again)
But my hypothesis is that the Galaxy's aren't moving away from something, but towards it, because the Andromeda Galaxy is going to Collide with the Milky Way in some three thousand years, i think they might be moving towards like a super Galaxy or we are all heading full steam into another Galaxy.
Now that i have that out of the way now i will try my best to poke holes in the Big Bang "theory" ((I use the term Theory loosely because it is just a hypothesis))
A.In order for the Big Bang theory to be true the Earth would have to be millions of years old
B.If the Above is correct where the earth is that old, then we would not have any blue stars which we have in plentiful amounts.
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:26 am
Curse-of-the-Phoenix yep (i changed it again) But my hypothesis is that the Galaxy's aren't moving away from something, but towards it, because the Andromeda Galaxy is going to Collide with the Milky Way in some three thousand years, i think they might be moving towards like a super Galaxy or we are all heading full steam into another Galaxy. Now that i have that out of the way now i will try my best to poke holes in the Big Bang "theory" ((I use the term Theory loosely because it is just a hypothesis)) A.In order for the Big Bang theory to be true the Earth would have to be millions of years old B.If the Above is correct where the earth is that old, then we would not have any blue stars which we have in plentiful amounts. I would think that A is faulty for the fact that Earth wouldn't have to be millions of years old for the big bang theory to be true, that is only needed for evolution to be true. Which means B is the same as A. I would also have to agree that the Big Bang is merely a theory, but it is a very probable theory that I see no problem with accepting, for the simple reason that it does not go against anything in the Bible. That theory doesn't make to much sense to me for the simple fact that: A. why are they not closing in together B. Why is it that they are literally growing father apart C. Even if what you say is true, it could merely be the slowing down of galaxies farther a long. I would also like to mention the reason I put this up wasn't to debate the fact per say, but to point out that the Christians believing the Big Bang is not foolish, and that many Christian Apologists believe the Big Bang (Greg Kougle, Frank Turek, etc) I say this only because all we can come up with is theories, with what little evidence we actually have.
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:22 am
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:21 am
Kain1334 Curse-of-the-Phoenix There is no way Christianity and Science can support The Big-Bang, even if you think God is not God of the world, but God of the Big Bang, its logically impossible, something had to create us because there was absolutely nothing in the beginning until God created the earth. I have friend who keeps trying to argue that the Big-Bang, is more logical than the existence of God ((which it is not)), he says that the Bible does not say how long one of God's days is, it doesn't say he's right but i argue this "Why would God make tell man what to write in the Bible that wouldn't make sense to us?" Ponder that... I do now let me explain why. First off it doesn't contradict anything that The Bible says. When God says 'let their be' it doesn't say how it came to be. Now secondly is the expansion of the universe itself. Astrologist's have noticed that the galaxies are going farther and farther apart, showing a certain beginning point. Thirdly let me explain what the big bang states it states that 'Everything in the universe began as a ball of condensed matter, that one day went 'BOOM!''. This is not an alternative to the beginning of the universe, but how the universe came to be what it is. We still need an explanation of how that condensed ball came to be, because as we all know, nothing can't make something. I believe that the big bang is what God used to cause the universe to be what it is. While everything was settling down, he made the stars, and the planets the way he wanted them to be. exactly what i thought
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:29 am
Curse-of-the-Phoenix yep (i changed it again) But my hypothesis is that the Galaxy's aren't moving away from something, but towards it, because the Andromeda Galaxy is going to Collide with the Milky Way in some three thousand years, i think they might be moving towards like a super Galaxy or we are all heading full steam into another Galaxy. Now that i have that out of the way now i will try my best to poke holes in the Big Bang "theory" ((I use the term Theory loosely because it is just a hypothesis)) A.In order for the Big Bang theory to be true the Earth would have to be millions of years old B.If the Above is correct where the earth is that old, then we would not have any blue stars which we have in plentiful amounts. If god decided too he could make everything look like it is a million years, The law of physics do not apply to him.God has no limitations at all. If he wants to do something nothing can stop him, let me remind you HE IS ALL POWERFUL! Now who wants to argue against that?
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:52 pm
I do, but I also believe that someone (God)
had to make it hapen razz
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:54 pm
Curse-of-the-Phoenix yep (i changed it again) But my hypothesis is that the Galaxy's aren't moving away from something, but towards it, because the Andromeda Galaxy is going to Collide with the Milky Way in some three thousand years, i think they might be moving towards like a super Galaxy or we are all heading full steam into another Galaxy. Now that i have that out of the way now i will try my best to poke holes in the Big Bang "theory" ((I use the term Theory loosely because it is just a hypothesis)) A.In order for the Big Bang theory to be true the Earth would have to be millions of years old B.If the Above is correct where the earth is that old, then we would not have any blue stars which we have in plentiful amounts. also as scintist have stated even light is not instant so all of those Blue stars we think are alive could be dead already and we are stil just seeing the past.
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