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So far. But he probably doesn't know he's going to be murdered yet. Follow that cow for a while more, and I bet you'll get some pictures that are far from content.

Does your farmer slaughter his animals on his farm? If they don't they send your lovely cow to a slaughter house where they are put down with all the other horrified animals from every other farm that doesn't have a slaughter house built in. Your cow will be dragged in and hopefully knocked out, but possibly not. Your cow will die and it will die in agony and fear. Good work. You can look your meat in the eye and have someone else murder it for you and feel great about it.



So... if the cow would have died anyway... oh wait. This cow wouldn't have been alive if it weren't bred to be killed anyway. This is a whole new animal placed on this earth specifically to die.

Most animals don't die by predators, there aren't enough animals out there for that, you might see it hurt itself and starve to death because it can't feed, or you might see it die of old age, death happens. Just because something might die anyway doesn't mean its ok to kill it now.

What rationalization are you using to keep yourself from killing people on the street? "They're just going to die anyway."

What rationalization are you using to keep your evident blood lust in check when you see a dolphin. "Its just going to end up as by catch anyway."

I apologize for editing to add more to my original post.

Also, that's not even relevant to the argument. You stated that you had met your meat and was thus ok with eating it, implying that you're ok with slaughter and that since animals die in the wild it is then ok to kill them, that's what you're being called on.

Depending on which state you live in you should have herds of wild buffalo or mustangs grazing in that open land but those breeds have been corralled and moved to a different spot, or killed off for your ******** cattle.

But why kill it at all. Why keep breeding more for lives destined to be cut short, to be bred bigger larger and be more of a burden on the land. It's not a natural life. It's kinda greedy of us, don't you think? I dream of symbiosis.

If you can't stand to do something to an animal yourself, deep down, it's probably going against your own moral compass.

Wait whut? Species have a natural aversion to killing their own? Clearly this explains why people kill other people, and why we let corporations murder and kill in third world countries... unless you're saying people of a different skin colour are a different species than you... polar bears kill each other, walrus kill each other, big horned sheep kill each other some times. Killing one's own species is an art perfected by humans but it happens among animals across -vore status and across animal kingdoms.

By your logic about the mustangs, Europeans also shouldn't be here. Get out. Also the other 7/8ths of me that aren't Native American can go too. Good work.

Without getting too deep into the great debate, I'd have to say that pasture raised cows are preferable to the alternative if the alternative is grain-fed and enclosed while being pumped with growth hormone for your short existence.

Since everyone isn't going to become vegetation even if I wanted them to, this is the better way to go.

I hate the idea of meeting meat though, because cows are sweet and to think they will be a burger for someone is horrible. When I was a child we kept a few cows. I mean a small amount like 3-5. I was there and helped when two of them were born and I fed them every day. One day a truck came and loaded them up and a few days later we got the white freezer paper packages in return. That was awful at the time but it's more traumatic thinking back on it. Still I'm glad they had the chance to live the lives they did, because I know I loved them and I'd like to think they knew it too. I wish every factory-raised cow had that opportunity.

I don't judge... aloud, but by your own logic you are a double murderer. Those animals eat plants too.

--And mammals show a significant deal more brain power than bugs. That is for certain.