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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:21 am


I know this isn't really a religious thing, but it does have a lot of morals played through this agreement.

My fiance was telling me about how they cannot shoot enemies with armor piercing rounds because it is inhumane. He said the bullets cause flesh to burst into flame. The only weapons the Marines are issues are M-16's and the body of their gun is manufactured by a toy company! There guns are not the best. And you will have some charging you with an AK-47, which are a good bit better then their M-16's. But if you shoot them and they keep running you are not allowed to use the armor piercing rounds to kill them... I find this absurd. I told my girlfriend this and she reacted the same as I did. "I'm sorry, but if I have a better gun I'm going to shoot them with that so they stop when I do and don't keep running." I've always wondered why I've seen movies or documents or whatever, where our guys have M-16's and the enemies keep running at them.

I know also that the US did not sign the agreement to not use napalm. So we can us napalm, but we haven't in a while.

Are there any parts that you know about that you disagree with? Or do you think that war should be humane? And how can war be humane? The whole idea is not.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:32 pm


These rules are generally made by people who don't actually know what it's like to be in a war. From what I know from the people who actually have been in one, there is no humanity in it. My grandfather can hardly speak of Vietnam. If I am called to fight, I will not be thinking "I better not shot him in the kneecap, that might hurt and that wouldn't be very nice," or any other absurd reasoning they might have for these idiotic rules.
The point is to kill and capture territory.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:38 pm


WAR IS IMMORAL
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR MORALITY TO PLAY A PART IN IT.
IT'S WAR.
UNDERSTAND MY POINT?
Like VK said...
Sorry for the cap's
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:55 pm


VK Fox
These rules are generally made by people who don't actually know what it's like to be in a war. From what I know from the people who actually have been in one, there is no humanity in it. My grandfather can hardly speak of Vietnam. If I am called to fight, I will not be thinking "I better not shot him in the kneecap, that might hurt and that wouldn't be very nice," or any other absurd reasoning they might have for these idiotic rules.
The point is to kill and capture territory.


The above in bold is an important statement.

I've never been in a war, I did think about joining the Navy after I left high school but that was more because I was always one of those athletic nuts who found running and working out and pushing myself to the limits to be a great thrill.

I don't know what war is like outside of what I hear from people I know who have fought in them, what I read and what I see on tv.

I generally don't answer questions like the ones posed in the OP because I don't know. I think people have a right to protect themselves and I think those who actually put their lives on the line are the ones who are qualified to make the decisions on what kind of weapons they need to do so.

Ideally war should not exist, we should find another way to solve our disputes. If that's not possible then we should fight wars according to strict rules dealing only in what is humane.

I think people get caught up in the ideal scenario, that's how they want things to be and they try to make rules accordingly. Realistically things aren't usually packaged so neatly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:32 pm


You do have to admit that, if war gases and bioweapons weren't banned, the collateral damage could potentially kill off the enetire human race, no?

It's like Mutually Assured Destruction. It's all nice in theory, but it takes one idiot to pull the trigger. Hence, we're better off outlawing them. I do agree with the US that Napalm, steel buckshot (which was added specifically due to its destructive power, a stray pellet could shatter cattle bone 20 yards away.) and armor-piercing rounds (Why? So we can still ahve Tank warfare?) are stupid bans.

The banning of weapons should be based on collateral damage potential, not firepower. After all, when war is inevitable, we want it to end as quickly as possible.
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