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Ishtar Shakti

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:57 pm


Recently; only within the last year have I ever had reoccurring dreams but for some reason the dreams feel different.
When I first had the dreams everything seemed exciting.

The dream was of this neighborhood and I was running through the neighborhood being chased. The dream was exceptionally long and no matter where I ran the people ended up finding me. It was exciting though because it forced me to think... I had to plan and plot and find places to hide that would throw them off my trail.

Last night I had the same dream... the same places the same hiding spots and it wasn't adventurous and it wasn't engaging because I'd done everything before. It was Frightening though. The people seemed to know where I was going to hide already as well... it wasn't just me who was reliving the dream but also my pursuers.

This just seemed odd to me. I had this idea that the people traveled through time, or knew my actions before I made them. This is the 3rd maybe fourth dream I've had like this...

I was just wondering what people thought. Does anyone know the psychological significance of having tracing dreams and what any of this could mean? I haven't heard anyone else ever mention having an occurring dream like this, where it was reliving the same instance.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:52 pm


You may also watch out for getting yourself stuck in the same mess over and over again, or getting the feeling that you're trapped in routine.

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DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:50 pm


I've had a few similar dreams. In fact, last night I had a dream where I was at a place I had visited before in a dream, and I explored it more. I used the knowledge I learned in the first dream to find out more about the place in my second dream. I also have had a recurring childhood dream where I was being chased by a fox. That one is always the exact same dream, though.

I wouldn't exactly be worried about this recent dream of yours, though. I'm not trying to discount your experience, but it seems rather normal to me. Remember that even though dreams often feel like they've come from somewhere else, the basis of the dream is in your mind. If you know the location of these hiding spots, any people you create while in a dream state may also know this information. It's all the same person: you.

However, Zurine does have some good advice (as usual). Watch out for predictability. Finding new paths can be fun and exciting, but if you exhaust all the paths you have found, you become predictable. Perhaps you're afraid of it. I know I am.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:18 pm


This is an odd question, but what exactly is so horrible about this? Originality is something that is overrated. Individuality is slightly less overrated, but still meaningless when it comes to what is truly you.

In other words, why does everything have to be different and what does it matter if you are caught? It's one thing to explore every available option and another to have to do things differently every time.

I just get this feeling that this dream has more to it than just fear of being predictable and using all available alternatives. More to do with the reason why you feel the need to be unpredictable in the first place. Is it a fear of not being first, of having your place taken? Or is it a fear of being caught, that your unpredictability has become so predictable that you can no longer hide behind it?

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Ishtar Shakti

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:10 pm


Well its not about originality. Its about a loss of options. Its about someone knowing what I am going to do before I do it. Thats frightening for me. In the dream I was afraid of not being able to be free, thats what them finding me meant that I would loose all choices... That they know all the decisions I am going to make and I have nothing else I can do. I am not good at running and in the first dream hiding gave me more time I felt safe because I had time to think to plan to sneak away and in the first dream I'm pretty sure I got away safely.

It has nothing to do with being unpredictable... they already knew my every move. There was no place I could escape because they knew everywhere I could possibly hide. It didn't feel like I was predictable... but that I had already been here before and they had already been here before and there was nothing left that I could do. It wasn't that I was predictable but that they Knew and its not like I did everything the same but that I already exhausted all possible options. They knew all my secretes
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:16 pm


Zurine
You may also watch out for getting yourself stuck in the same mess over and over again, or getting the feeling that you're trapped in routine.

Maybe I am getting stuck in the same messes over and over again. I don't feel like I follow a routine

Ishtar Shakti


DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:12 pm


Ishtar Shakti
Well its not about originality. Its about a loss of options. Its about someone knowing what I am going to do before I do it. Thats frightening for me. In the dream I was afraid of not being able to be free, thats what them finding me meant that I would loose all choices... That they know all the decisions I am going to make and I have nothing else I can do. I am not good at running and in the first dream hiding gave me more time I felt safe because I had time to think to plan to sneak away and in the first dream I'm pretty sure I got away safely.

It has nothing to do with being unpredictable... they already knew my every move. There was no place I could escape because they knew everywhere I could possibly hide. It didn't feel like I was predictable... but that I had already been here before and they had already been here before and there was nothing left that I could do. It wasn't that I was predictable but that they Knew and its not like I did everything the same but that I already exhausted all possible options. They knew all my secretes


Then maybe you've answered your own question. Maybe you're afraid of running out of options. It could be as simple as that. And if you have issues with trusting people, then having someone know all your secrets can be terrifying.

I've pretty much given up on trying to interpret my own dreams, except in rare circumstances, but when I was still intrigued by it I found a quick Google search for "dream dictionaries" was fairly helpful. You might try looking into a few of them if you want to know the significance of chase dreams.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:24 pm


Freedom, huh?

Are you the kind of person that is seen as caring and responsible, that others go to when they need help or a favor?

I get the feeling you are.

If that's true, then this dream is most likely a representation of your life and the dilemma of it. The thing is you are a very clever and intelligent person. You know how others think and especially what they expect. And you don't want to let anyone down or leave them hanging. But this clashes with your own needs and freedom. But rather than assert yourself, you'd sooner just avoid the situation and thus the contradiction outright. So when you don't want to feel pressured to have to do something, you just avoid it by avoiding the people that will appeal to your "better" nature to do it.

At first, this is a thrill. Cause you get to exercise your cleverness and resourcefulness that is otherwise underappreciated. And you get the smug satisfaction of outsmarting others that just want to use you anyway. But as time goes on, they catch on. And are more than happy to play this little "game" with you.

I don't think you've been caught 100% at it yet, but I think what your subconscious is trying to pose to you is just what will you do when you run out of options, that there literally is no where else to run?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:47 pm


Ishtar Shakti
Zurine
You may also watch out for getting yourself stuck in the same mess over and over again, or getting the feeling that you're trapped in routine.

Maybe I am getting stuck in the same messes over and over again. I don't feel like I follow a routine


Sometimes when my dreams tell me something I don't quite understand I do a tarot/ rune reading about it to try and clarify it all.

Did you recognize anyone in the dream?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:46 pm


Nymshi
Freedom, huh?

Are you the kind of person that is seen as caring and responsible, that others go to when they need help or a favor?

I get the feeling you are.

If that's true, then this dream is most likely a representation of your life and the dilemma of it. The thing is you are a very clever and intelligent person. You know how others think and especially what they expect. And you don't want to let anyone down or leave them hanging. But this clashes with your own needs and freedom. But rather than assert yourself, you'd sooner just avoid the situation and thus the contradiction outright. So when you don't want to feel pressured to have to do something, you just avoid it by avoiding the people that will appeal to your "better" nature to do it.

At first, this is a thrill. Cause you get to exercise your cleverness and resourcefulness that is otherwise underappreciated. And you get the smug satisfaction of outsmarting others that just want to use you anyway. But as time goes on, they catch on. And are more than happy to play this little "game" with you.

I don't think you've been caught 100% at it yet, but I think what your subconscious is trying to pose to you is just what will you do when you run out of options, that there literally is no where else to run?

I feel pegged sweatdrop
What would I do? I've had problems with that before so it actually makes alot of sense what you said. I guess... in the avoidance of the issues I'm trying to ignore that question to. I don't think I'd go along with it. I'm very defiant when people try to make me do things. Sometimes though when people are nice and... ask me in a way that isn't too presumptous or demanding its hard not to. Your interpretation makes alot of sense as the people wouldn't take me or capture me in public. Which is true when people want to ask you favors or get you to do something, they usually don't try to make you do anything in public or they have to convince the public that its "ok" what they are doing. People don't like others to judge them I guess.

They also never used force they always just tried to talk to me. But I always made sure I was in public or others were around.

Ishtar Shakti


Ishtar Shakti

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:50 pm


Zurine
Ishtar Shakti
Zurine
You may also watch out for getting yourself stuck in the same mess over and over again, or getting the feeling that you're trapped in routine.

Maybe I am getting stuck in the same messes over and over again. I don't feel like I follow a routine


Sometimes when my dreams tell me something I don't quite understand I do a tarot/ rune reading about it to try and clarify it all.

Did you recognize anyone in the dream?

No I usually don't recognize people in my dreams. Unless they are prophetic and then I'll actually see peoples faces but it will only be the faces of people I haven't met yet
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:59 pm


Ishtar Shakti
I feel pegged sweatdrop
What would I do? I've had problems with that before so it actually makes alot of sense what you said. I guess... in the avoidance of the issues I'm trying to ignore that question to. I don't think I'd go along with it. I'm very defiant when people try to make me do things. Sometimes though when people are nice and... ask me in a way that isn't too presumptous or demanding its hard not to. Your interpretation makes alot of sense as the people wouldn't take me or capture me in public. Which is true when people want to ask you favors or get you to do something, they usually don't try to make you do anything in public or they have to convince the public that its "ok" what they are doing. People don't like others to judge them I guess.

They also never used force they always just tried to talk to me. But I always made sure I was in public or others were around.

Heh, I hope I wasn't too blunt. I know from experience no one likes feeling pegged. Feels like an intrusion of privacy, ya know?

Anyway, I understand very well where you are coming from. It sounds like you're definitely more assertive though. It's just that you hold back during times it would probably be better if you were just blunt with the people.

That's also the hangup with the dream. I mean you're found. You don't want to be found. You don't want them finding you again. It would be the simplest thing just to tell them to go away. In fact, the dream makes it clear that you really ought to. I know I would if I had someone hounding me like that.

Of course in real life it isn't quite that simple, but it can be. What it boils down to is knowing when something is truly reasonable and knowing when a person is just sounding reasonable. And you definitely have the sense to know.

So like the dream keeps pushing...the ball's in your court. DO something. 3nodding

Nymshi

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Ishtar Shakti

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:36 pm


You weren't too blunt I though have some avoidance tendencies. Sometimes its good to be blunt or else I will come up with 50 different ways to take a comment so that I'm never quite sure if its accurate or not.

I guess I should be blunt with people. Its hard though. I don't want to hurt peoples feelings or make them feel uncomfortable. It depends on how much I care for the person.

In the dream I had the feeling though that no matter what I did it wouldn't stop. I don't hear sounds in my dream, its almost as if I'm mute so I don't even know if I could talk in my dream.

I've been trying to speak up more though I know that if I'm honest the other person will get hurt. I just recently had to inform someone that we are just dating, we're not in a relationship, and that was soo difficult. I didn't know if we were on the same page and I'd been skirting around the subject It took me two weeks. Sometimes it doesn't really matter how reasonable it is... when in your heart you just don't want to, not that you'll never want to, but at this moment you just Don't want to... there isn't much you can do but say no.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:03 pm


Hmm...

I haven't really wanted to pry too much, but any detail, any little oddity or feeling, is very important when it comes to deciphering dreams. The rule usually is that if you noticed it and remembered it, it is something important.

Like not hearing any sound...the feeling of not being able to stop it.

Since sound deals with hearing and listening it suggests a communication problem on your end. Like either you are not hearing these people or they are not really talking to you.

This is enforced by you saying that you feel as though you would not be able to talk. It is impossible to respond to something you did not hear.

And...this changes some things. More like inverts them... x.x

Like until now I've been saying and thinking the problem was a lack of action. And I should have caught it when you said that even though it is difficult, you have and can be assertive. So the problem may not be that. It may be that you're acting ineffectually in the absence of information. That by trying to avoid unpleasant situations with others, you may be causing them or at the very least preventing yourself from obtaining the information needed to resolve them.

And that in turn would help explain the repetitive nature of the chase. Like, how you end up in the exact same spots getting caught may be a clue in an of itself that you're just repeating. And you've said that before...but I didn't really catch the potential significance of that till now. Because without any new information, one would be doomed to repeat the same tired paths and events in their life.

Nymshi

Shy Stalker


Ishtar Shakti

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:34 pm


I can never hear in my dreams but yes the feeling of not being able to speak is definitely different. That makes sense

Because I don't know why they are chasing me... I don't know whats causing the situation I'm not really acting in a way that can prevent them from chasing me. By running I can't stop them and I am just going through it all again. But I can't talk to them I feel like I can't so thats making the circle

recently I've been having alot of dreams of people I know and they are really... well I know exactly where all aspects are coming from within my day. This is a first for me but I guess its a good thing
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