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 Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:00 am
Hi, it's been a while! Well, I'm back with a discussion topic. I'm sure some of you know about the Trinity. It's unexplainable since we don't even completely understand it. The Trinity is how God is three people at once, God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit. God is all of these at once. They are seperate people, but are the same. It makes no sense, since they are two contradicting things. If they are three different people, then they have seperate indentities, but if they are all the same, then they share an identity. No one will understand until heaven. Any thoughts?
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:02 pm
Yeah, it is one of those things you just have to believe...
I see it as this:
One person can have 3 different identities to different people. For example, a mother can be a wife to her husband, as well as a sister to her brother.
Or...
An apple has a core, flesh, and skin. An apple's core is different from the skin, but it's still apple, is it not? The skin is different from the flesh, but they're both still apple, right?
They're not the best examples, I know that. Nothing really comes close to the actual complexity of the trinity...But, it does give us a small idea. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:54 pm
I was gonna give an analogy I've heard before, but Yami Baku already used a similar one (the apple one). I've heard it explained as an egg - yolk, white, and shell. Like any analogy, it isn't perfect, but oh well.
As for understanding the Trinity, I don't understand it completely but I believe it. When people get to obsessed with trying to completely explain everything in the Bible so that it makes perfect sense, I think they sometimes confuse themselves and others even more. Too many people get into long arguments about whether or not the three in the trinity are really the same God or are three completely distinct parts of God - I think that they are neither completely seperate from each other or completely the same. Like I said... it's hard to understand... does this make sense?
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:00 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:24 pm
Yeh it seems bothersome for people to try to separate them in the first place. The Bible introduces God our creator, and displays Him in three forms.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:55 pm
I've always seen the trinty as one person holding three offices. Yahovah holds the office of Father, which is the creator of all things. As the son, which the name Jesus mean Yahovah is salvation. And as the Holy Spirit, His spirit sent here to help guild us. Many people have the trouble understanding that our Father can multi-task and be in more then one place.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:06 am
I believe in the Trinity, and I have had it explained to me many times, and have tried explaining to other people, but they don't want to believe it because the idea came from the Roman-Catholics. It is annoying because what they say is the same as what I am trying to say, but without the title. *shrugs* Oh well. But one of the ways I have had it explained to me is that it is like water, the three stages of it. There is the gas stage, liquid stage and the solid stage. The three are different, but it is still the same thing.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:32 pm
*laughs* Well I guess I should post while I have the time then 'eh.
Well yeah. I love the egg analogy.
There's the shell, the whitening, and the yoke.
Jesus is the yoke, as he says "My yoke is easy and my burden light". *laughs* Interesting huh? Also, that yoke is the embodiment of the next chicken, as Jesus is the embodiment of God here on Earth.
The Holy Spirit is the shell, what draws you close in, what reveals things to you and what you listen to and through when you listen for the next chicken.
Then God the Father, the Creator, the whitening which creates and nurcures the developing chicken.
But, all three of them make the Egg! You can't have the shell and call it the egg. You'd call it an egg shell, not the entire egg, wouldn't you? And you couldn't call the yoke the egg, but the specific name of it, the yoke, part of the egg.
Interesting huh??
Likewise, we have specific names for each specific Person that God is. The Holy Spirit who's inside us Christians, God the Son who's Jesus Christ the Guy we follow and the One who is constantly intersessing for us, and God the Father whom we pray and confide in.
Actually...
You can do that with all fruit really. Apples, oranges, pears. The skin, the meat, and the seeds. It's funny how God created it all like that. XD I mean, He did create all things to give Him glory. So, I guess He has some thing for the number 3.
domokun
God bless
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:16 am
that egg scenario is really good ^_^ I like how you broke it down Angel_Kokoro
a way I have often explained it is as water. How water can be a solid, a liguid or a vapor... but that's not as good as the egg. water cannot really be in 3 forms at the same time.
Another good concept mentioned here is that there is one God, who holds 3 offices.
I've never had trouble understanding the trinity though, it always made sense to me that God played several main roles in my life.
the role of creator, saviour and friend.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:47 am
flineagle a way I have often explained it is as water. How water can be a solid, a liguid or a vapor... but that's not as good as the egg. water cannot really be in 3 forms at the same time. Yes it can!!! xp xd Dry Ice!!!! domokun XD That was corny...actually...that was coooool.... xp
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:53 pm
Angel_Kokoro flineagle a way I have often explained it is as water. How water can be a solid, a liguid or a vapor... but that's not as good as the egg. water cannot really be in 3 forms at the same time. Yes it can!!! xp xd Dry Ice!!!! domokun XD That was corny...actually...that was coooool.... xp lol, is dry ice liquid? I've only seen it once and I dont remember anything except that it supoosedly burns.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:39 pm
I've always thought of the trinity as a single computer. God of course would be the CPU, the source of all information. Jesus, in turn, would be the monitor, who displays all information directly to us, being fed straight from the CPU. The Holy Spirit would then be the keyboard and mouse, or the means by which we access and use the infromation delivered through Jesus by God. It's all one computer, all working toward the same goal. Perhaps... sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:21 pm
Follow My Lied I've always thought of the trinity as a single computer. God of course would be the CPU, the source of all information. Jesus, in turn, would be the monitor, who displays all information directly to us, being fed straight from the CPU. The Holy Spirit would then be the keyboard and mouse, or the means by which we access and use the infromation delivered through Jesus by God. It's all one computer, all working toward the same goal. Perhaps... sweatdrop I would personally like to take that analogy, but instead of isolating each aparatus of the entire unit the computer. God is the entire pc and computer. and the different parts and pieces are his facets. Father being not just the cpu.. but the pc tower as a whole. then the other parts like you said.. but, not that they are different people working with each other. They are still ONE UNIT! "behold oh israel, the Lord thy God is one God"
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:58 pm
yeah...when I said CPU, I meant the entire tower...my mistake. And they are one unit...which is...what I said...right?
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