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Cheerful Clarissa

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:14 pm


Ok so I've got my rocks off in this "psychic" stuff.
I believe it.

not all of it, cause stuff like 2012 just makes me sound like a conspirator, and who cares, its a year that will come and go just like all the other years.

my difficulty in this area is immence though I completely haunted by it, deeply scarring and all that I think I need like or at least they should have spirit counselers who know about this s**t.

but to the point;

since solid walls dont keep people (ghost, guardians whatnot) out how can I keep entities out without training myself to make shields, I need some security and safety.

and second how can I make it immpossable for entities to pass through my halo?

I mean talk about derailing someones whole world view, I feel awful all the time from the experiences I've had with no answers! and no one dare send some people over!

feel free to PM me I want to finally settle this and get my life back on track.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:07 pm


You seem to be incredibly afraid of the idea that some incorporeal entity can just waltz into your home or mind, unimpeded.

Why the aversion to learning how to make shields?

You could try sigils as a way to ward entities away from your property, but I think the only way you're going to keep them out of your head is by learning some form of shielding.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:12 am


You could learn to make shields around your room! If you have a Buddhist Temple around, they might be willing to teach you or just set it up!

But I would recommend simply learning to harden your aura to Spirirts... Or become a Medium...
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:11 pm


crying

those are the answers I'm looking for, and yes its hella unnerving to think that someone could be spying on you , they have all the advantages, and they've toiuched me before!

I'm so messed up now that my abilities suck, but how am I supposed to be independant, I had another psychic at some point make shields for me, but what if she was lying, but how I could tell?

I've lost jobs, interviews and college time over this, its haunting me horribly.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:08 pm


I don't know why you are so adamant about not generating your own shield, since it is a relatively easy exercise, but if you're looking for something physically you can do, Obscurus' idea of using warding sigils is definitely a good one. An old folklore charm against devils and demons involved a bottle full of small seeds; supposedly, they must count them, which will take them all night until the sun drives them away.

Another simple idea is consecrating (blessing) your space...it's kind of like making a sanctuary that will metaphysically turn your walls into walls. Nothing metaphysical can enter sacred space (churches, magic circles, etc.) without being invited or allowed (for instance, a church's invocation of God).

As far as portable, I may recommend a charm or amulet of some variety if you are against psychic shields. They are easy to make or bless, and some can be purchased at metaphysical stores. They will either augment your natural shield or work in place of it.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:25 pm


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I don't know why you are so adamant about not generating your own shield, since it is a relatively easy exercise, but if you're looking for something physically you can do, Obscurus' idea of using warding sigils is definitely a good one. An old folklore charm against devils and demons involved a bottle full of small seeds; supposedly, they must count them, which will take them all night until the sun drives them away.

Another simple idea is consecrating (blessing) your space...it's kind of like making a sanctuary that will metaphysically turn your walls into walls. Nothing metaphysical can enter sacred space (churches, magic circles, etc.) without being invited or allowed (for instance, a church's invocation of God).

As far as portable, I may recommend a charm or amulet of some variety if you are against psychic shields. They are easy to make or bless, and some can be purchased at metaphysical stores. They will either augment your natural shield or work in place of it.
oh yeah I remeber that dead guy was screaming at me about "amulet" something or other.

that was when I was in the hospital.

anyways I've made shields before, but it was based on my energy being driven on the logic that ghosts didnt exist.

funny huh, when I didnt believe in this stuff I was securely shielded by my subconscious but now that I know about this stuff I'm to freaked to be able to concentrate long enough.

oh and I hate angels to, cause mine hated me *sticks tongue out*

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:34 pm


the problem is, I've looked up tons of stuff to help, trust me I havent been patheticly moping around or pulling out my hair in vane, and I dont know whats the real thing or just some fraud scammer stuff.

I mean even crystal links (wich first fooled me into the mess) is selling abook about 2012, which I can feel is a rip off, it has like one substantial thing in it that important, and thats about it.

so what really works and what doesnt?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:27 pm


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the problem is, I've looked up tons of stuff to help, trust me I havent been patheticly moping around or pulling out my hair in vane, and I dont know whats the real thing or just some fraud scammer stuff.

I mean even crystal links (wich first fooled me into the mess) is selling abook about 2012, which I can feel is a rip off, it has like one substantial thing in it that important, and thats about it.

so what really works and what doesnt?


If you're being offered something for free then you have the option of trying it out without being ripped off. The only way to test whether something is valid or not is to test it yourself. Personally, I'd be wary of most things on the Internet, just because anyone can put up anything. I personally prefer books that talk about things that coincide with my personal experience.

That's not to say the Internet doesn't have valid information, because it does. It's just that you shouldn't take anything at face value without investigating it yourself. If you find that a lot of different places are reporting similar things, then there just might be something to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:06 am


Alright, my shield is made with my aura, (through practice) I've been able to control my aura, shape it, and metaphysically harden it....

The way I do it might not work against spirits though.... I just made it to stop my little brothers energy because he sometimes throws it at me.....

I just force it into a Huge pair of wings wrapping around me....I don't think it stays there when I sleep because it's always back to normal when I wake up...

I learned it from a book, but you might be able to find it somewhere online.
Or you can consecrate the area as Azana said, but that entails invoking a god or goddess as far as I know...But then you're just calling a stronger spirit to protect you form the weak ones that can be kept away by a SHIELD!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:01 am


Then there's the age old, traditional way of cleansing a room. It involves using sage or another cleansing herb like angelica. Salt is also supposed to keep spirits away so you could surround your bed with salt, preferably sea salt.

I agree that consecration means that you have to consecrate it to someone lol. But a simpler method one that I have used when the spirits following me became unbearable, is to merely visualize your space filled with bright burning light and feel your energy cleansing the room. Oh and by the way I believe a ghost or spirit will not be able to pass through a shield if you specifically program the shield to block them

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:16 pm


yeah but why?

I mean I just dont know how the spirit world works still, before it was easy, look around a room if you dont see or hear anyone and no ones hiding from you then theres no one there.

now its complicated and requires training?

I didnt buy this house with a bunch of uninvited guests in it. it shouldnt matter what I do, it should just be how things are.

I know entities stay away from me, my subconscious is powerful enough, I think its cause I am talented in art that makes my abilities stronger.

what I want to know is what are the rules for ghosts and stuff?

like if they can walk through walls why not shields? are ghosts/entities just pure energy?

someone told me ghosts "get in trouble" if they did/do stuff like go into your head or peek in at you in the shower and stuff like that, soo who punishes them? and who/how would they be caught? am I constantly being watched or something?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:26 pm


oh and does anyone know what talismans work?

or symbols that are proven to work?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:26 am


PAINT YOUR ROOM RED!!!!! ACCORDING TO THE CHINESE GHOSTS CAN'T GO THROUGH RED, BECAUSE IT REMINDS THEM OF A VIOLENT DEATH!!! Any of them that can then go into your room are benevolent and should be treated with respect.

But I don't know if that will work on non Buddhist/Taoist/Hindu ghosts because they weren't taught that when they were kids.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:45 am


Ghosts and spirits are of another plane than our normal one. It's sad, but the only vivid comparison I can make is to a video game.

Super Paper Mario. It's a game that is, for the most part, played as a 2-d side-scrolling platformer/rpg. Yet Mario, for reasons unexplored, has the ability to move into 3-D. So, if he runs across a big 2-d barrier, there's usually a way around it in 3-d.

Switch our red plumber friend for a ghost and your bedroom wall for that barrier, and you can get the point. He/she/it moves through the spiritual/astral/energetic plane (whichever you choose to call it) in which that wall is not a wall anymore. The point of wards and consecration, then, is to make that wall a "3-d" wall that will also block things astrally.

As far as uninvited guests, not all of them are necessarily bad. Some of them aren't even spirits at all but sort of an after-image of previous owners and the energy they put into their home. For instance, a home where a family fought and argued a lot usually makes a sensitive person's skin crawl, even when the people have been gone for a year. For problems like that, an energetic cleansing of the home usually alleviates that.

I've heard plenty of folklore on how to rid oneself of ghosts and spirits in the household, from slamming doors repeatedly to full-on ritual exorcisms. They wouldn't get passed on if they didn't work, as that was the pragmatism of most folk cures in the day. As far as amulets, some people choose the religious symbol of their choice, which is pretty potent. There are certain runes or symbols specifically meant to protect from various threats which are easy to draw (and you can carry on you, too). I mean, are you looking for some specific prescription for your problem? Because I don't know your preferences, I can give you choices but not a strict protocol.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:42 pm


Overall, I think you're just being excessively paranoid about this. If you want something to be paranoid about, consider how every time you go in public you are most likely being watched by a camera somewhere.

If there are spirits in your home and they are actually bothering you, then do something about it. If you're just worried about the possibility that some disembodied consciousness could peak at you in the shower, then you really just need to chill out.
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