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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:27 pm


California voters will probably have to decide whether to legalize marijuana in November after supporters announced Monday that they have more than enough signatures to ensure that it qualifies for the ballot.

The petition drive has collected more than 680,000 signatures, said Richard Lee, the measure's main proponent, about 57% more than the 433,971 needed.

"It was so easy to get them," Lee said. "People were so eager to sign."

The initiative would allow cities and counties to adopt laws to allow marijuana to be grown and sold, and to impose taxes on marijuana production and sales. It would make it legal for anyone who is at least 21 to possess an ounce of marijuana and grow plants in an area of no more than 25 square feet for personal use.

Steve Smith, a political consultant who has run many California initiative campaigns, said that as a rule of thumb, supporters assume that about 30% of the signatures on petitions will be invalidated.

"I'll be very surprised if they don't qualify," he said.

The measure, the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act, is one of four initiatives in circulation to legalize marijuana use, but it is the only one that appears to have the financial support to make the ballot.

Lee's firm, one of the state's most successful marijuana businesses, has spent at least $1.1 million so far on the measure. Lee owns a half-dozen businesses in Oakland, including Coffeeshop Blue Sky, a medical marijuana dispensary, and Oaksterdam University, which teaches about marijuana.

Lee said he expected that the campaign will cost between $7 million and $20 million, but he hopes to raise the money from across the country.

"We feel like we've done our part," he said.

Lee has hired consultants to run an Internet-based campaign that he said already has a mailing list of about 30,000.

In a news release, the campaign announced that it had more than 650,000 signatures, but Lee said that the firm he hired to collect signatures put the number at more than 680,000. Lee said volunteers would continue to gather signatures until the campaign turns in the petition early next year.

Polls have shown support among California voters for legalization. A Field Poll taken in mid-April found that 56% of voters in the state and 60% in Los Angeles County want to make pot legal and tax it. A poll taken for the initiative's proponents in August found that 51% of likely voters supported it when read language similar to what will be on the ballot, but that increased to 54% when they were read a less technical synopsis.

Smith said those numbers suggest proponents face tough odds.

"Generally, you are at your high point when you start," he said. "The no side just has to come up with one good reason to vote no."

But Smith said that a lot will depend on how much money is spent by both sides and whether the electorate tilts toward left or right on election day. "I think it'll probably be a very close vote," he said.

Some marijuana advocates have criticized Lee for pushing his measure, arguing that they would have a better chance in 2012, a presidential election year when the electorate tends to be more liberal.

"I think things have turned our way so much that we have a good chance of winning," Lee said. "This is the time to bring up the issue and talk about it. Who knows what will be going on in 2012."

Dale Gieringer, the director of California NORML, was one of the skeptics, but he said his pro-legalization organization would endorse the ballot measure.

"I'd like the initiative to pass," he said, "but I'm not holding my breath necessarily for this to happen."

Lee said he believes that the increasing acceptance of medical marijuana has changed the dynamic. He said voters are aware that it is easy to obtain a doctor's recommendation to use marijuana, but he said most believe that is "a good thing."

"Medical marijuana in California has been accepted as legal in some ways by a lot of the population," he said. "To me this is codifying what it happening."


TLDR: California hopes to pass a bill that will allow 25 square feet to grow marijuana for personal use without a license and will allow you to carry up too an ounce for personal use as well without receiving a penalty or fine. 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:51 am


....I can't wait to vote. *Is in California*

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:45 am


Wack, I'm in Texas which'll probably be the last state to legalize, I mean s**t we're still fighting gay marriage and that's like two years ago that everybody stopped caring
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:44 pm


The title should read "California to vote on legalizing marijuana". Either way, a very positive step.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:46 pm


xXLycosXx
Wack, I'm in Texas which'll probably be the last state to legalize, I mean s**t we're still fighting gay marriage and that's like two years ago that everybody stopped caring

Do you have Medicinal Marijuana legalized in Texas? If so, it woun't be long before you get it legalized.
Even Michigan will legalize.
Anyway....so gonna move to Cali anyway, be if they legalize, double time.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:02 pm


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Wack, I'm in Texas which'll probably be the last state to legalize, I mean s**t we're still fighting gay marriage and that's like two years ago that everybody stopped caring

Do you have Medicinal Marijuana legalized in Texas? If so, it woun't be long before you get it legalized.
Even Michigan will legalize.
Anyway....so gonna move to Cali anyway, be if they legalize, double time.
Nah we don't well maybe but as far as I know we don't

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:42 am


Il is trying to pass medical. Ill be trying to jump on that band wagon. : ]

I was watching a documentary called The Union. Very interesting. I suggest watching it!! It has sooo many things that the gov. has done that doesnt make any sense... and just the numbers... omg. Its sickening how much the us spends on trying to get weed of the streets. No wonder were in ******** debt and paying so much for taxes... Ridiculous the amnout of stupid s**t the gov has us paying for.... War on Marijuana.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:51 pm


I'm honestly surprised Vermont hasn't gone this far yet, but we still don't have medical dispensaries, so it might be a while for legalization.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:51 pm


I'm pretty sure that I saw this on the new...something about the bill being passed.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:59 pm


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Anyway....so gonna move to Cali anyway, be if they legalize, double time.
Actually, move here before they put the bill up to vote. We need more people here to vote yes on it. dramallama

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:27 pm


I'm not sure what's up with Michigan. We passed medical in November, but the legislation is so undeveloped and sloppy... Like most Michiganders.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:26 pm


I will be making many road trips then. [I live in Vegas]

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:50 pm


I hope they pass it. I live in Cali and that would just be amazing. Except I'm moving to Germany next year so I probley won't be around to enjoy it if it does pass sad
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:58 pm


Snow White Jinx
I hope they pass it. I live in Cali and that would just be amazing. Except I'm moving to Germany next year so I probley won't be around to enjoy it if it does pass sad
Have you looked up Germany's drug laws?

Also, isn't there a train that can take you to Holland? (If and when you decide to make a trip like that?)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:11 pm


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I hope they pass it. I live in Cali and that would just be amazing. Except I'm moving to Germany next year so I probley won't be around to enjoy it if it does pass sad
Have you looked up Germany's drug laws?

Also, isn't there a train that can take you to Holland? (If and when you decide to make a trip like that?)
It's illegal in Germany. But Amsterdam is only a 6 hour train ride away from where I will be, I just won't be able to go there too often. It will be nice to have the option to travel there and smoke without worry when I can but it would be a whole lot better if I was not going to be moving and Cali did legalize it, because then I wouldn't have to take a 6 hour trip to get high. ^_^
Oh well, I'll only be there for a couple years, by the time I get back I hope it's legalized. That would be awsome to come home to.
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