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 Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:28 pm
I was looking up political s**t when I heard senators of California, or someone, were suing the state for a city councilman from North Carolina being put into office.
Why was it a problem?
Because he was an Atheist........
The Senator laws state that the person "Must believe in God" as it states clearly in the bill.
This is causing a major uproar and the lawsuit could go on for years.
I found a video was made awhile after I discovered it.
Can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XZNaKEErBs
Now then, if needed, just watch the first two or three minutes to get the jest of it.
I find this...extremely ignorant and terrible...
I have lost faith in our country now.
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:34 pm
He's a city councilman from North Carolina, not a senator from California.
Still infuriating, though. People who say atheists aren't persecuted need to know about this.
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:36 pm
Lethkhar He's a city councilman from North Carolina, not a senator from California. Still infuriating, though. People who say atheists aren't persecuted need to know about this. Gah, must have mixed the information. Will correct it. thanks for the tip. x.x
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:55 pm
The only way to fight bureaucracy civilly is with equal or greater bureaucracy...like smashing diamonds. Atheists must use the very things used against them in a case by zealots who think they know law: freedom of religion (atheism may be the absence of belief in a god but it was legally classified a religion). Quote: Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Quote: Amendment 9 The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. ALL forms of legality must follow the rules according to the branch: The United States Constitution ^ National ^ State ^ County ^ Local The problem lies within the state law, but the Constitution overrules it, therefore the "no atheists"state law does not apply due to conflict with the freedom of religon section. You see, atheists couldn't do that WAAAAAAAY back ago because it wasn't legally classified as a religion, BUT NOW we are allowed reap the benefits. Cecil doesn't even need to go to court to fight for that one.
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:01 pm
HOORAY FOR THE FIRST AND NINTH AMENDMENT!
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:03 am
 Yeah, that has nothing to do with California's Senators, Our senators are Liberal and support religious separation from state.
 heart 4laugh
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:41 pm
Je Suis La Vie Yeah, that has nothing to do with California's Senators, Our senators are Liberal and support religious separation from state.
heart 4laugh The only openly atheist congressman in our country's history is from California.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:20 am
...really? This is to stupid to be real...oh man it is real...Jeez Emerica...why?
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:26 am
I thought Torcaso v Watkins fixed that?
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:03 am
Lol, I liked at the end when he pointed out that Christians technically stole the holiday from the Pagans. It WAS Winter Solstice, but they decided it would be easier for their new converts to stay with it if they gave them a different reason to party. rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:43 am
They can't win. razz The councilman has a right to be there, a protected right, and the North Carolina constitution is in violation of that right; so is every other state that has and enforces that clause. 1st and 9th amendment of the US Constitution. Also: Quote: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. Supremacy clause for the win. Done. We win. Anyways.... Someone's religious convictions (or lack of them) has no bearing on whether or not they are fit for public office. The best and most qualified people are still the best and most qualified regardless of their religious beliefs, and those beliefs shouldn't get in the way of their duties anyways.
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:04 pm
Oh could you please change the title of the thread? stressed
I live in California, and we don't hate as much as other places do. We've got an openly atheist congressman!
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:28 pm
Henneth Annun Oh could you please change the title of the thread? stressed I live in California, and we don't hate as much as other places do. We've got an openly atheist congressman!
I didn't mean it like that. >:K
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:20 pm
how did you mean it then? It has nothing to do with California! biggrin
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:37 pm
Captain_Shinzo Henneth Annun Oh could you please change the title of the thread? stressed I live in California, and we don't hate as much as other places do. We've got an openly atheist congressman!
I didn't mean it like that. >:KNo, no, no....I know you didn't mean it like that! *smiles* I'd just like it if it were changed to North Carolina.
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