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 Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:51 pm
Once I saw "Waters of Mars," my mother and I got an interesting question in our heads.
In America, most of the people on T.V. were in groups.
Star Trek had a team.
Bones has a team.
Even House, who is a little more important than the others, has a main team.
The West Wing? Same thing.
We had the cowboy group and the indian group.
In Doctor Who, it's more like the Doc is on his own. Here are some FAQ's that you might think once you see this:
Q: What about his companions?
A: The companions were there, but they weren't the big heroes or gave a key part to the solution. Especially, in the old series, the girls were more prone to
a) Running in high heels
b) Screaming
c) Get knocked out
Q: What about the times where the Doc will say "I need you."
A: Yeah, he'll say that. But, I think that's more for his emotional structure. It's not that much for saving the world or whatever (Martha's an exception).
From looking at English history (colonizing, Churchill, Queen Elizabeth), it seems that the British are more prone to being by themselves.
Is this true? Can someone British give me some info so that I can understand?
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:13 am
House is british lol. Well actually the actor who plays House is. Hugh Lori. Have you ever heard his real accent?
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Captain_Jack_Harkness_1 Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:45 pm
Captain_Jack_Harkness_1 House is british lol. Well actually the actor who plays House is. Hugh Lori. Have you ever heard his real accent? Not yet. But, I REALLY WANT TO!
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:03 am
Wolverine is prone to being alone, but he's also Canadian
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:57 pm
Zander_Rose Wolverine is prone to being alone, but he's also Canadian That proves my point. smile
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:21 pm
Being British, I must say I don't really think it's a British thing. You see the whole "going solo" thing here in Canada a lot, too....but...it really depend on the situation. I mean, the television deal is just due to successful formula. When you have a team, you can establish a leader, and have a higher level of character-centric episodes in a season without seemingly focusing on one character obsessively, I guess.
Like, if Torchwood was just about Jack and, say, Gwen, then you couldn't have the same percentage of character-centric episodes in a season, or you'd have "In Which We Watch Gwen Brush Her Teeth 40,000 Times Due to Temporal Looping" and "In Which Jack Talks About His 2 Billionth Death All Episode Long".
With Doctor Who being about the Doctor and his companion at the centre, I suppose it makes it more personable for viewers, like you're coming along for the ride.There's a surprisingly low number of similarly formatted shows for something that it wonderful for audience surrogacy and a formula that just works really well (at least for Doctor Who...).
The whole historic solo thing is possibly just about strength and status. When you act alone, and have that sort of lone wolf stature, it evokes the image of bravery, or perserverance and stamina, and sort of stoic appearance. With people like that, there's a certain level of fear you have of them, but a lot more awe, respect, and reverence. They seem to be very strong and powerful people, and the doctor certainly is a fine example of that view. It's like the gods of mythology; you see the portraits, hear the tales, and can easily believe they are immortal, imperishable, and entirely invincible.
And wow, that was a lot of rambling there... sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:40 pm
CaptainxJackxHarkness Being British, I must say I don't really think it's a British thing. You see the whole "going solo" thing here in Canada a lot, too....but...it really depend on the situation. I mean, the television deal is just due to successful formula. When you have a team, you can establish a leader, and have a higher level of character-centric episodes in a season without seemingly focusing on one character obsessively, I guess. Like, if Torchwood was just about Jack and, say, Gwen, then you couldn't have the same percentage of character-centric episodes in a season, or you'd have "In Which We Watch Gwen Brush Her Teeth 40,000 Times Due to Temporal Looping" and "In Which Jack Talks About His 2 Billionth Death All Episode Long". With Doctor Who being about the Doctor and his companion at the centre, I suppose it makes it more personable for viewers, like you're coming along for the ride.There's a surprisingly low number of similarly formatted shows for something that it wonderful for audience surrogacy and a formula that just works really well (at least for Doctor Who...). The whole historic solo thing is possibly just about strength and status. When you act alone, and have that sort of lone wolf stature, it evokes the image of bravery, or perserverance and stamina, and sort of stoic appearance. With people like that, there's a certain level of fear you have of them, but a lot more awe, respect, and reverence. They seem to be very strong and powerful people, and the doctor certainly is a fine example of that view. It's like the gods of mythology; you see the portraits, hear the tales, and can easily believe they are immortal, imperishable, and entirely invincible. And wow, that was a lot of rambling there... sweatdrop Hmmm...maybe, yeah. I guess Doctor Who is a group thing, like captain and crew. Yeah, snd if the show was all about one person, then it wouldn't be out there and that popular... But I still think the Doctor is the main lone wolf, part of the time. It's what people think of him. He's powerful, fantastic, and has all the things he needs, but he's lonely. It's like the question, "Do you want to go on the Moon?" Yeah, but do you want to be alone? And that's the Doctor's circumstance. He gets all these possibilities, but it's not fun if he's all by himself. But that's a good thing about the Doctor. He's like a normal human being, but strange. Part of him is like this wonderful...magician (for a lack of words). But another part of him is a nightmare. There's the Dream Lord, and the Doctor's the Nightmare Lord. He always was sort of that Jesus-type in my opinion. Part divine, part human. The problem he had (well at least for the Tenth Inc.) was that he thought he was fully divine, and didn't admit to himself the human inside him. I don't mind the rant. I rant myself. smile
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:00 pm
Liz Sladen Sarah Jane Hmmm...maybe, yeah. I guess Doctor Who is a group thing, like captain and crew. Yeah, snd if the show was all about one person, then it wouldn't be out there and that popular... But I still think the Doctor is the main lone wolf, part of the time. It's what people think of him. He's powerful, fantastic, and has all the things he needs, but he's lonely. It's like the question, "Do you want to go on the Moon?" Yeah, but do you want to be alone? And that's the Doctor's circumstance. He gets all these possibilities, but it's not fun if he's all by himself. But that's a good thing about the Doctor. He's like a normal human being, but strange. Part of him is like this wonderful...magician (for a lack of words). But another part of him is a nightmare. There's the Dream Lord, and the Doctor's the Nightmare Lord. He always was sort of that Jesus-type in my opinion. Part divine, part human. The problem he had (well at least for the Tenth Inc.) was that he thought he was fully divine, and didn't admit to himself the human inside him. I don't mind the rant. I rant myself. smile I agree completely. The Doctor is and pretty much has to be first and foremost, and easily recognizable as a lone wolf who doesn't really need to have anyone else by his side, but enjoys the company as he goes about his business. The Jesus-type comparison is particularly apt, and you can see the whole human-superhuman dichotomy played out very clearly over the series, even with Ten playing down his human side. It's really interesting to see the balance shift, particularly in relation to the various companions over the years, and the characteristics and influences they present to the Doctor.
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