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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:26 pm


It is true that how you were raised, the home/school/general environment you grew up with, and your nature has importance in deffining you as a person. However choice is the most important element in the sorting.

This thread will discuss the choices made by the characters and how you think that effected them and others.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:29 pm


Please feel free to disagree or to agree and expand on anything that is posted here, but be sure to do it with a certain degree of respect. In other words, don't tell someone they are an idiot for saying something or any other useless name calling. Instead, state your reason for disagreeing with a person's view and explain how you feel that the person was mistaken.

Simply try to take it on an intellectual level and that will generally avoid being meaninglessly rude, unless you simply use big words to insult someone.

Just use common curtesy.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:35 pm


In the introduction thread, I stated that Hermione should have been a ravenclaw(obviously), ron should have been a slytherin(think about it), and draco should have been a Hufflepuff (No, really! He does!).

That sparked a lot of interest pretty quickly so I will start on that subject.
As Hermione is obvious why she should be a ravenclaw, I will skip over that, but come back to it if anyone asks me to.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:38 pm


Draco could have been in Hufflepuff I mean, lets face it as tough as he seems, he's not, he's a wimp...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:48 pm


I think Ron was better suited for a slytherin. When he looked into the mirror of erised, he saw himself better than all of his brothers. He saw himself as an extreemly important individual. This shows that he wants to be the center of attention because he is the best. this is further enhanced in that he doesn't shirk his responsibilities as a prefect, but he doesn't enforce the rules enough to make himself not liked by other students. He keeps the position without becoming unpopular with the fellow students. this is one of the begining signs that he belonged in slytherin.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:50 pm


Life is short-I am not
I think Ron was better suited for a slytherin. When he looked into the mirror of erised, he saw himself better than all of his brothers. He saw himself as an extreemly important individual. This shows that he wants to be the center of attention because he is the best. this is further enhanced in that he doesn't shirk his responsibilities as a prefect, but he doesn't enforce the rules enough to make himself not liked by other students. He keeps the position without becoming unpopular with the fellow students. this is one of the begining signs that he belonged in slytherin.


I never thought of that. But maybe it's because he had so many brothers (and Ginny) that he hardly got an attention to begin with...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:53 pm


As time goes on, and the going gets tougher, it is even more obvious that he didn't belong in griffendor because he didn't stick with his friends when things got tough. he showed a significant lack of chivalry in doing so. When Harry's name was pulled out of the goblet of fire, he ignored his three year friendship with harry beforehand and took the mindset of the rest of the wizarding world. He didn't have a second thought that Harry might be in mortal peril, but rather that Harry would be even more popular than him. He spends this time with his twin brothers who are the life of the party and we do not know how things went during this time. He doesn't come back to harry till after everyone else likes him again.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:55 pm


Even before the goblet of fire, ron shows himself to be distinctly self centered from the first year on. He bashes hermione several times worse than he is to Harry. He felt uneasy about Hermione over-hearing him saying that nobody likes her, but instead of showing real remorse, he says "So what? She should have realized she has no friends". In the third book, he is particularly nasty to her. While Hermione is only worried about their well-being, that interrupts ron's good times
He can't watch Harry at the quidditch pitch and he can't hang out with harry in Hogsmeade anymore. The worst conflict happens when Her cat eats his rat that he's allways so emo and depressed about having. He's not too worried when he thinks scabbers is dead when Draco and friends try to take candy and wack him against a wall, but he can't forgive hermione because "her cat acted like all cats do". Less than 15 minutes after Hagrid explained to him how Hermione has been "taking on more than she can chew" and helping him with buckbeak's case and crying nearly every visit, His reply to her anxious plea to them not to sneak to hogsmead is "Havn't you done enough damage allready?

After this blows over, He is the one who can't stand camping. Even before he gets the horcrux, he is the most spoiled of the three and leaves. Now he does come back, but it's only because he realizes that he's nothing without his friends.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:56 pm


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Life is short-I am not
I think Ron was better suited for a slytherin. When he looked into the mirror of erised, he saw himself better than all of his brothers. He saw himself as an extreemly important individual. This shows that he wants to be the center of attention because he is the best. this is further enhanced in that he doesn't shirk his responsibilities as a prefect, but he doesn't enforce the rules enough to make himself not liked by other students. He keeps the position without becoming unpopular with the fellow students. this is one of the begining signs that he belonged in slytherin.


I never thought of that. But maybe it's because he had so many brothers (and Ginny) that he hardly got an attention to begin with...

He got boatloads more attention than Harry did growing up in a cubboard being routinely beaten by his cousin.

and ginny was the absolute youngest. Ron was her older brother and she turned out alright.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:02 pm


Now about draco malfoy, I agree, he is not a wimp for not killing dumbledore. what he does is not for personal ambition, but for the benefit of his family name. He never refers to himself as the superior being but rather his father. that's what really irritated me about the third movie. Draco meets up with Hermione and ron outside the shrieking shack and says "surely you know how to adress a superior". He would never say that in 'real life'/book life. Instead of saying that, he's more likely to say "my father will hear about this... well, father says..."

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:05 pm


This is Hufflepuff loyalty. He is just and loyal, but to the 'wrong' causes and people. The way he was raised, it was right and proper for purebloods to be superior. Another way that he is not a slytherin, is that rule breaking is rather a customary part of both griffendor and slytherin house's. slytherins break rules for ambition, where as griffendors break the rules when the feel it is for the greater good. Draco never breaks the rules except for a few tattle-tale runs. The biggest rule he broke was in the first year when he snuck out of bed to tell on hagrid for the dragon. after that, his rule breaking becomes less and less significant. In the third book when Draco is picking on Harry on the train, he stops when he sees lupin. "He wasn't stupid enough to try something in front of a teacher". Stupidity for any reason is normally associated with griffendor or slytherin.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:07 pm


Even when it would have been easier to break rules to achieve his end, he would go by the rules and stay "true and unafraid of toil". the next truely major time he didn't do as he was told was when he didn't kill dumbledore. This shows a change in loyalties not that he is a wimp. He realizes that he is human and that he can't follow his father. He tried to do it, but he couldn't. it would have been easier to simply run away, or to con someone else into doing it. Yes, Snape did wind up killing dumbledore, but draco didn't mean for Snape to do it, Draco tried to force himself to do it. it was a hard transition from one side to the other, showing that he was truely loyal to others and not simply to himself.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:12 pm


By the seventh book, he doesn't know where to turn to. He flip-flops more times than it would seem proper. He still wants to rebuild the honor that comes with the family name, but he's really on the fence about what to do. This results in Harry saving him time and time again, and draco not doing anything truely evil. Even though deep down he wants to be on the other side, he never truely drops his prior cause.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:14 pm


When he names his child scorpius, that reinforces that he hasn't truely switched sides. Draco is latin for dragon or snake, and a scorpion is another vile poinionous animal like a snake, indicating that he still has slight ties to his old life. However, when he catch's Harry's eye on the platform, he gives a slight nod in aknowledgement.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:19 am


But if Ron had been in Slytherin, then the whole story would have been different. And deep down, Ron was always friends with Harry. And when he guiltily says, 'so what' he is sorry for it, but only says 'so what' as something he would later have regretted. Something that he just said as a spur of the moment kind of thing. For Draco, being in Slytherin was just how he was. When he was sorted, he was an ambitious, cunning young student, and immediately sought to make friends with Harry, as he knew that a friendship between the two would be extremely useful later on in life. Slughorn was also a Slytherin, yet he was not 'tough', but he was certainly cunning. Draco may have changed later in his life, but at the time of sorting he was a Slytherin through and through.
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