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 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:54 pm
Post your army lists here for review and criticism.
Strict rules:
Do not flame army lists.
Post what units they have, what they each cost, and what your total points is.
If you are criticizing an army list, say what exactly is wrong with it, and what could be done to fix it, rather than just saying 'that list sucks'.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:31 pm
I'd like to make one or two additions to what is said above.
1. Do not post the exact point value of seperate models and pieces of wargear. The total cost of a squad / character with kit and gear is allowed, but the seperate costs are not.
Why? This is seen as a copyright breach of GW's property and thus not allowed. I'd post a disclaimer from the GW site, but nobody reads those anyway.
2. One of my personal favourites, please let experts of said armies rate the lists of the army they know best of. The last thing I want again is a marine player telling me, a veteran Guard player, what is wrong with my Imperial Guard list. I like jokes, but some things are not meant to be.
That is all.
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:39 am
For Chaos!
Iron Warriors
Chaos Undevided 5/1
Hq
Jamie Darksoul
Chaos Lord
Termi armour
Power Weapon
Demonic Mutation
Servo Arm
Undevided
Total-150
Retuire for Chaos Lord
9 Termis
3 Reaper Auto Cannons
Power fist
Lighting claw
Chain Fist
Combi-flamer
Combi-melta
Heavy flamer
Undevided
Total-441
David Darksoul
Chaos Lieutenant
Bolt Pistol
Plasma Pistol
Chaos Marine Bike
Chaos Hound
Servo Arm
Undevided
Total-137
HQ Total-749
Elites
Chaos Space Marines
Mark of Khrone
Khronate chain axes 3 modeled
Rhino
Destroyer upgrade
Aspiring champion
Total-283
2 Obliterator cults
3 per squad
Undivided
Total-426
Elites Total-709
Troops
Squad1
8 Marines
Aspiring Champion
Frag
Krak
Missle Launcher
Servo Arm
Total-189
Squad2
8 Marines
Aspiring Champion
Frag
Krak
Heavy Bolter
Servo Arm
Total-184
Squad3
8 Marines
Aspiring Champion
Frag
Krak
Lascannon
Servo Arm
Total-194
Squad4
8 Marines
Aspiring Champion
Frag
Krak
Auto Cannon
Servo Arm
Total-189
Squad5
8 Marines
Aspiring Champion
Frag
Krak
Melta Gun
Servo Arm
Total-189
Squad6
8 Marines
Aspiring Champion
Frag
Krak
Flamer
Servo Arm
Total-185
Total Undivided
Troops Total-1178
Fast Attack
9 Bikes
Krak
2 Melta Guns
Undivided
Fast Attack Total-353
Heavy Support
Havoc Squad
4 Missle Launchers
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Undivided
Total-183
Chaos Predator
Twinlinked Lascannons
Heavy Bolters
Havoc Launcher
Dozer Blades
Pintel Combi-bolter
Extra Armour
Living Vehicle
Mutated hull
Smoke Launchers
Search Lights
Parastic Possession
Total-249
Chaos Dread
Close Combat Weapon
Mutated Hull
Heavy Flamer
Total-132
Chaos Land Raider
All upgrades
Total-434
Heavy Support Total-1183
Total-4289
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:30 am
Tau
pl-25 planitary assult
6-stealth suits
12-fire warriors
12-kroot k
6-kroot hounds
4-krootox
4-v8-crises battle suits
3-braud side battle suits
2 devel fish troop carriers
2 hammer head tanks
i dont want to calculate the points right now and my log book is at my parents house.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:38 am
shadowman514 Tau pl-25 planitary assult 12-fire warriors 12-kroot k 6-kroot hounds 4-v8-crises battle suits 3-braud side battle suits 2 devel fish troop carriers 2 hammer head tanks i dont want to calculate the points right now and my log book is at my parents house. I think you're a bit light in the troop area with only 12 fire warriors. And the Tau player I play with says that Kroot are a worthless unit and I think the stats bear him out. Also you should probaly put some shield drones with those Broad sides since the last thing you want is for one of those to go down due to a shot from a lascannon in the first turn. I would scrap the troop carriers since you have too few troops to actually want to engage the enemy in short range combat. But it all depends on what kind of enemy you are facing. This kind of army could do tons of damage vrs a Armored Company but against the normal armies you might find that you have a problem holding ground because you just have too few troops.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:17 am
Oh a side note. The Khrone berserkers in my list are now Normal Chaos marines
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:44 pm
Reddemon Oh a side note. The Khrone berserkers in my list are now Normal Chaos marines Wouldn't that turn them back into troops making the total number of your troops 7? I don't see any problems with your army except for a lack of speed for some of your close combat squads. So I would give the squad you want to get in close with either a rhino or the elite skill infiltrators. Other than that It looks like you have a good good mix of everything that a successful army needs.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:19 pm
i got the kroot for christmas like 2 years ago they where free so i figured why not put them to gether and use the, i wasnt about to ask for the reciet so i could exchange them... actualy now if i think about it i should have then i could have gotten more fire warriors. oh well im waiting for the new units to come out before i get any more
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:23 am
shadowman514 Tau pl-25 planitary assult 6-stealth suits 12-fire warriors 12-kroot k 6-kroot hounds 4-krootox 4-v8-crises battle suits 3-braud side battle suits 2 devel fish troop carriers 2 hammer head tanks i dont want to calculate the points right now and my log book is at my parents house. Okay, first off, I'm going to tell you how to give us an army list. We can't critique it much if you don't follow a set order when you post the list. One, the points value of the army. Two, organize the list by Force Organization Chart entry, and three, give us the upgrades/equipment/weapons/wargear on each unit. Look at Reddemon's list for clues. Without this information, there's little we can do for you. So in a general sense: I hope this is a list of the models you have, rather than an actual army list, because it's totally illegal as is. For one, you have 5 Heavy Support choices. You're only allowed three. Two, those Devilfish need to be attached to a squad of Pathfinders or Fire Warriors to transport anything. I don't beleive you can take them seperately. I don't see an HQ choice. Certainly one of your XV8's could be a Shas'el or 'o but that needs to be told to us. And Kroot aren't terrible, but they need to be massed to be of any use, and the table needs a forest or three.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:57 am
Oryn Okay, first off, I'm going to tell you how to give us an army list. We can't critique it much if you don't follow a set order when you post the list. One, the points value of the army. Two, organize the list by Force Organization Chart entry, and three, give us the upgrades/equipment/weapons/wargear on each unit. Look at Reddemon's list for clues. Without this information, there's little we can do for you. So in a general sense: I hope this is a list of the models you have, rather than an actual army list, because it's totally illegal as is. For one, you have 5 Heavy Support choices. You're only allowed three. Two, those Devilfish need to be attached to a squad of Pathfinders or Fire Warriors to transport anything. I don't beleive you can take them seperately. I don't see an HQ choice. Certainly one of your XV8's could be a Shas'el or 'o but that needs to be told to us. And Kroot aren't terrible, but they need to be massed to be of any use, and the table needs a forest or three. He only says 3 Broad sides. I dont know about you but he could have them all in a singel squad
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:14 am
Reddemon He only says 3 Broad sides. I dont know about you but he could have them all in a singel squad Yes, but he also says 4 Krootox, which have a squad cap of 3, and 2 Hammerheads. So one slot for each Hammerhead, one Slot for the Broadsides, and 2 slots for the 4 Krootox. Illegal.
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:50 am
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:02 pm
Now I know that you don't really like my opinions but I'll give it anyway.
Damn I don't even have the normal nitpicky complaints that I always have about this army. You obviously don't have a lack of anti-infantry fire-power and you have plenty of lascannons in your army so you don't have a tank killing problem either.
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:11 pm
Mat & LT are the ogds of the Gaurdsmen around here. & yes the Khrone berserkers have all received a replacemnt mark of Chaos undevided & they are now troops
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:18 pm
HQ__________________________
Tigurius - 165pts
ELITES_______________________
1 dreadnought w/ extra armor, assault cannon, and a DCCW with bult in storm bolter trasported in a drop pod - 140pts
1 dreadnought w/ extra armor, assault cannon, and a DCCW with bult in storm bolter trasported in a drop pod - 140pts
1 dreadnought w/ extra armor, assault cannon, and a DCCW with bult in storm bolter trasported in a drop pod - 140pts
TROOPS______________________
7 marines w/ heavy bolter and sargent w/ terminator honors and power fist - 155pts
7 marines w/ heavy bolter and sargent w/ terminator honors and power fist - 155pts
7 marines w/ heavy bolter and sargent w/ terminator honors and power fist - 155pts
HEAVY_SUPPORT_______________
1 predator w/ 1 twin-linked lascannon and 2 side sponson lascannons and extra armor - 150pts
1 predator w/ 1 twin-linked lascannon and 2 side sponson lascannons and extra armor - 150pts
1 predator w/ 1 twin-linked lascannon and 2 side sponson lascannons and extra armor - 150pts
TOTAL_POINTS______________ - 1500pts
FINAL_NOTES_______________
i've played about 7 games with this list ad only lost once in a game vs eldar with heavy starcannons. but i've had AWSOME games. one of the best ones was vs an armored company, my tanks blew up like 2 tanks and then the rest on my marines chared across the table yelling "FOR THE EMPORER!" and even tho i wiped him out, i only had a sargent from one squad, a full squad and 1 dreadnought with only a assult cannon and a full dreadnought. but it was fun as anything. most of the game i thought i was ganna lose but i was the emperors finest so i decided to trying to go out with a bang, and i did have a bang. but i did't go out, heh.
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