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DragnGuy7

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:44 pm


Why did we get an arceus at lvl 100? Why couldn't we catch it in some cool event? Nope, you just get it with no opportunity to ev train it or anything! The only reason for it was that it unlocks an event in the new GS remakes that allows you to get a lvl 1 dialga, palkia, or giratina but couldn' t they have just given us a pikachu or something stupid like that so Arceus could have his own little event? I think nintendo must be sniffing something really hard or maybe they didn't want to go through the trouble of making an event for Arceus. I don' t understand. Why was Arceus so rejected?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:01 pm


It could be so that people wont use it as much. If they could EV train it then that would result in pretty much everyone usuing it. If I had the God of all Pokemon, that was properly Ev trained, then I would use it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:20 pm


It's not like you could use such a Pokemon in standard online play anyways, so I don't see what the complaint is here. Besides, just like previous events, I'm sure they will EVENTUALLY release the Azure Flute. If your that disgruntled, then just release it and wait til they release the Azure Flute.

Perhaps the reason why this event Pokemon was released as a level 100 untrainable Pokemon is because of the extra added special attack moves on it that it doesn't learn normally: Roar Of Time, Spacial Rend and Shadow Force. Perhaps the last thing they needed was to make Arceus standalone stronger than it already is.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:53 pm


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It could be so that people wont use it as much. If they could EV train it then that would result in pretty much everyone usuing it. If I had the God of all Pokemon, that was properly Ev trained, then I would use it.


But arceus is uber and the most popular tier is OU, so he really wouldn't see much use.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:53 am


I don't reckon it's that bad...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:18 am


if they give me a mew then i would be happy, don't care what level it would be i would rather have a mew than an arceus... lol

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:31 am


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It's not like you could use such a Pokemon in standard online play anyways, so I don't see what the complaint is here. Besides, just like previous events, I'm sure they will EVENTUALLY release the Azure Flute. If your that disgruntled, then just release it and wait til they release the Azure Flute.

Perhaps the reason why this event Pokemon was released as a level 100 untrainable Pokemon is because of the extra added special attack moves on it that it doesn't learn normally: Roar Of Time, Spacial Rend and Shadow Force. Perhaps the last thing they needed was to make Arceus standalone stronger than it already is.
Yeah the thing is it's not like you are going to be able to battle with it or do much with it. It's in the uber tier and Uber Tier=NOT ALLOWED TO BE USED IN BATTLE
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:44 am


I wish they would have at least have some kind of plot to it, instead of just giving it to you (plat/pearl?) and honestly, it's stats are pretty high for it not being ev, so even if you use it... It's probably not gonna be OHKOed. :/

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:34 pm


not for me it wasnt (since i have soul silver alredy) but then again i have a toys r us 5 minutes away if you had to actualy travel to get it then i guss it might be but as krynex said its not like you can realy use it here anny way
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:49 pm


I guess kyrenx has a point. I've personally always had a fantasy to pwn my friends with a fully evd Arceus. That would be really cool.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:41 pm


What nature should be used for Arceus?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:43 pm


I dont think it matters much. I mean, with the Azure Flute Event Arceus comes at Lv. 80, and all his stats would be over or around 270 at lv. 100 anyway, even without E.V. training.

I understand that he's basically God, but DAMN. Over-powered up the yin-yang!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:07 am


Surprise this thread isn't a poll..

Anyway, to everyone saying the Arceus wouldn't be usable even if it -were- capable to being EV trained-- don't be silly, guys. You're looking at the event from too much of a competitive aspect instead of a "for fun" point of view. People do sometimes have battles in the uber category where anything is fair. It's all fun and games, and there are collectors out there (like myself) who do like having EV trained legendaries around just because. I never use them, hardly, but I enjoy customizing them to be exactly the way I want still and having them around for that rare moment I get challenged to an "anything goes" match.

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Perhaps the reason why this event Pokemon was released as a level 100 untrainable Pokemon is because of the extra added special attack moves on it that it doesn't learn normally: Roar Of Time, Spacial Rend and Shadow Force. Perhaps the last thing they needed was to make Arceus standalone stronger than it already is.


While this is a really good point, I wonder if it really would make Arceus all -that- much better? I would agree if not for the fact that Arceus is incredibly unique in that he can be whatever type he needs to be.

Not only do we get a complete type selection from Judgment, but we also have other moves to think about when it comes to this. Roar of Time is useless and Spacial Rend is great but still weaker than Draco Meteor and just as powerful as Judgment if our Arceus were of the dragon type.. Not to mention physical Arceus have access to Outrage which is just lethal. Incredibly powerful options especially if we have Arceus equipped with the dragon plate, which is an extremely safe type to be..however, what of Judgment? If we un-equip our Dragon Plate suddenly the STAB bonus is gone...yet we might want it to give more power to our special Dragon Moves, right? Yet we also don't need to have more than one dragon move on our Arceus, that wouldn't do at all. Suddenly we're in a pickle (unless we forget Judgment altogether, but I personally see it as a very great attack to take advantage of. Maybe things would be loads easier if we just forgot Judgment existed.)

Okay so what if we make our Arceus a ghost to give more power to our new Shadow Force..no that won't work, we'd have the same problem with Judgment (I see Judgment as a staple to be honest) and Shadow Force is extremely predictable and it'll be a miracle of the opponent isn't packing something that can handle the hit, be it Detect, Protect, a normal type, whatever.

Okay so we'll just decide to leave Arceus a normal type (wisely) and in the end we really don't have anything that could be considered too much "better" than the options he would have had without the event. Can we really say Shadow Force is enough to deem him "better"?

I'd consider it a much wiser choice to focus on special attack for this example Arceus I've made up as we want our fancy shmancy dragon type moves to be as strong as they can be, especially if we're deciding to go without having a dragon STAB. So we can boost special attack, or we can decide to boost speed..but what do we lower? One of his defenses can suffer, he certainly has room on those impressive stats, whatever decision made there goes to whoever is training the Arceus, but I will note that if Attack is decreased and Special Attack is increased (and maxed) Shadow Force will do the same amount of damage that Shadow Ball would unless we give Arceus some attack EVs ...And in the end Shadow Ball is really much more reliable unless you like to play doubles, no?

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*head explodes from too much thinking* I suppose in the end, what I'm trying to say is that event or no, Arceus has amazing options and is too good. wink A normal spec'd Judgment would probably be better than ANY special exclusive move they can possibly give him, to be perfectly honest.

To be on topic, er, yeah, the event was totally a sham.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:10 am


DragnGuy7
I guess kyrenx has a point. I've personally always had a fantasy to pwn my friends with a fully evd Arceus. That would be really cool.


My fried and I battle with ours, I still pwn her with my two with high speed stats. I wanted mine with a nature for speed to beat her infernape and equipped it with the splash plate. We just battle for fun so we use ours ageist each other. Mine still out speeds any thing she has.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:14 pm


just realized that now Battle revolution is ruined i mean it was always flooded with dialga and paklia but now arceus? Game over man game over >.< god they must of killed that online play....
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