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 Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:18 am
Someone just said that on the TV.
Some animals have sex and go on their way. The males not caring about the offspring. Other animals, like penguins, stay together throughout their lives. Working together to raise their offspring.
But how are humans designed? Are we designed to reproduce and move on or are we penguins?
True, nature and instinct can only go so far and being able to stay in one relationship isn't unheard of. But what are humans "built to do"?
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:12 pm
Life has been built to extend itself by any means necessary.
The female praying mantis and certain species of spider both eat their male counterparts after acquiring their genetics to breed more little insects/arachnids and continue to search for more partners. Snakes (both male and female) reproduce and go off their separate ways, sometimes in giant orgy pits.
As a matter of fact, most reptiles don't even form relationships: They just mate and be off into the wild.
I have no idea about the breeding habits from males of our species (even though I AM one), but it seems we've adapted to both lasting AND separate breeding relationships.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:14 pm
Pirate Captain Sushi
I have no idea about the breeding habits from males of our species (even though I AM one), but it seems we've adapted to both lasting AND separate breeding relationships.
I wonder if any animal species would do the same.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:31 pm
Arguably yes, males are designed to cheat. We have no time investment in children, so producing as many as possible is the best way to pass on our genes, and since a woman can become pregnant only so frequently...
With that being said. I believe social conditioning, memetics, has largely overridden this instinct in Western culture.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:35 pm
Shiori Miko Pirate Captain Sushi
I have no idea about the breeding habits from males of our species (even though I AM one), but it seems we've adapted to both lasting AND separate breeding relationships.
I wonder if any animal species would do the same. Penguins I think?
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:40 pm
Pirate Captain Sushi Shiori Miko Pirate Captain Sushi
I have no idea about the breeding habits from males of our species (even though I AM one), but it seems we've adapted to both lasting AND separate breeding relationships.
I wonder if any animal species would do the same. Penguins I think? Female penguins lay the egg then disappear for awhile to store up on food, leaving the males ing their groups. If that's what you mean by seperation. Penguins divorce too. The thing you learn on Dirty Jobs.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:11 pm
We've got to protect our women and children, as there are only so many.
Sure, we might take more then one under our protection, but all in all, none shall be abandoned.
I believe animals who reproduce and part ways are animals who are either born capable, or born en mass.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:44 pm
Humans have evolved past the basic instinct to just do it with the females and then just leave, but yes they were built to do just that males to have sex with as many woman as possible while the woman was to secure a permanent mate for protection of her and the young'uns but after intelligence and sentience kicked in, it has become complicated with it now being mostly personal preference.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:14 pm
SolarInvictus Humans have evolved past the basic instinct to just do it with the females and then just leave Clearly you don't live in New Zealand. Our women are the most promiscuous in the world. The instinct is alive and well =P
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:42 pm
Biologically speaking, males also have a stake in making sure their offspring survive to maturity and are reasonably healthy and attractive to potential mates. So that "provider" instinct may also help override the "lay 'em and leave 'em" instinct that would prompt them to spread their genes as widely as possible.
Of course, humans are also biologically capable of acting on more than mere instinct. So you could argue the design thing both ways.
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:16 am
*Snorts* I've had one girlfriend that hasn't cheated on me, or at least not been caught at it. I don't think instinct had anything to do with it, and I'm going to assume it doesn't in the males. Sometimes yeah, we, humans, want more than we have; that's called greed. Greed can be controlled. If you want to argue that there's more at play than choice, I'd start with social conditioning and work your way back, but I think it's mostly choice and making excuses. Honest cheats will agree.
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:08 am
Valheita Arguably yes, males are designed to cheat. We have no time investment in children, so producing as many as possible is the best way to pass on our genes, and since a woman can become pregnant only so frequently... I got to agree as a basic way to put it, even if there may be some species where the role may be exchanged (sea horses, I believe could be an example where the female inject the egg into the male). Beside this, species may differ due to instincts and chemical reactions. I believe I've seen some documentary focusing on humen being instinctively attached to their sexual partners or not. It seem we are growing found of who we sleep with (on an instinctively level), but may at the same time fight the instinct at and social/cultural level. At least the "experts" advised the viewers to not have sex or snuggle with partners they don't intend to fall in love with. 
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:34 am
Gakre Valheita Arguably yes, males are designed to cheat. We have no time investment in children, so producing as many as possible is the best way to pass on our genes, and since a woman can become pregnant only so frequently... I got to agree as a basic way to put it, even if there may be some species where the role may be exchanged (sea horses, I believe could be an example where the female inject the egg into the male). Beside this, species may differ due to instincts and chemical reactions. I believe I've seen some documentary focusing on humen being instinctively attached to their sexual partners or not. It seem we are growing found of who we sleep with (on an instinctively level), but may at the same time fight the instinct at and social/cultural level. At least the "experts" advised the viewers to not have sex or snuggle with partners they don't intend to fall in love with. In humans there is a chemical reaction that takes place that if you are truly in love with your partner, nullifies a lot of the attractions the opposite gender vibes off. I know it's true for males at least, I don't see how we can be built to see our mate more important and more attractive then anyone else and be built to cheat at the same time.
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:08 pm
Another thought is some men( and women) are territorial over their partner. No idea if this happens in the animal world though, so it may be a human only trait.
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:58 pm
My only response is: goddamn you David Buss D:<
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