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ponygirl74

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:26 pm


I'm holding on a possablb trade with someone(no offense to person) who wants to trade a pokemon received over the GTS with a ribbon that they know is hacked. Thanks for being honest but said person thinks the pokemon it's self is legit. Pass or go, If said person doesn't mind posting stats go ahead. Understand that it's not an disbelif on my part, I just want a legit pokemon and you know the GTS has hacks.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:30 pm


i understand i'd do the same but just to clarify its the classic ribbon and the problem is the pkmn is supposed to have it but the lack of the ribbon is why it was possible to get off the gts and as proof of that being the actual event shaymin i can show on the trade screen the ot name says TRU ^^

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:08 pm


Any TRU Shaymins from the GTS are instant fakes. Plain and simple. Don't waste your time with them.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:13 pm


not exactly fake their is a code to remove ribbons on action replay so its not fake simply the ribbon was removed

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:51 pm


Kyrenx
Any TRU Shaymins from the GTS are instant fakes. Plain and simple. Don't waste your time with them.


I got ore from TRU through the event it's self but if it's a forgin one I can see it being fake, or if it has a name as I know that they can't be named.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:38 pm


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not exactly fake their is a code to remove ribbons on action replay so its not fake simply the ribbon was removed


Anything containing the words "Action" and "Replay" together automatically makes the thing worthless in trades to those who want only legit Pokemon. If it's been altered through any means outside the normal limitations of the game, then I'm afraid it's far from being considered legit. There are no gray areas I'm afraid.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:54 am


thats an opinion not a fact though i know many people who are perfectly fine with hacked pkmn as long as it isnt in extreme such as having wacked out stats. i mean who cares if you hack a pkmn to be shiny but don't change anything else about it.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:19 pm


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thats an opinion not a fact though i know many people who are perfectly fine with hacked pkmn as long as it isnt in extreme such as having wacked out stats. i mean who cares if you hack a pkmn to be shiny but don't change anything else about it.

No, it's fact. "Semi-legit", "quasi-legit", "altered in legal limits" all in the end (any way you slice) mean not fully legit, which ultimately means illegitimate; fake or tweaked; hacked. Once again, there are no gray areas.

Yes, some people accept them but NOT everyone does and I don't see why it is so hard to understand why there are those of us who wish not to deal with hacks (in any shape or form). Is that such a hard request to abide by?

In no way is anyone saying you are not allowed to enjoy the game the way you want to, all that is asked that you don't ruin it for those of us who wish to play legit and only request legit Pokemon (and that goes for trading as much, if not even more so, than battling). Once an AR is slapped on your game, why do you even bother trading anymore? What further significance is there to shinnies if everyone and anyone can have one at almost a moment's notice? Seriously, I don't even know why this subject is even being debated (again).

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:45 pm


Woo hoo!!!! Not only are we debating the on the limits of what is consider legit, but are we now going to debate on the premise what is considered fact or an opinion?

@Shrab: Its fine to dub Kyrenx's comment on ARed pokemon being worthless in trades as an opinion, but as far as anything being legitimate, hacked is hacked regardless of how much you tamper with a a piece of data.

Also to point out, the reason why anyone would care is because the person who has the AR can alter anything. Its not a question of how far he/she would, but how he/she could. With the temptation to make a minor change here and there, who is to say that this person will not take it a step further and make more changes while justifying every action taken? Trust online is bad enough to begin with and the idea of someone using one just doesn't help with that trust any further. Not to mention, those who play to the full lengths of the game legally devote a lot of time to it. The notion of using a AR to hack a poke with the desired stats, nature, shiny, whatever just cheapens the experience, especially knowing the pokemon I trained (which may have taken many hours to days) trade with someone (who just pressed a few buttons or added a few codes with in a few minutes,) just doesn't seem like a fair and appealing trade.

As Kyrenx pointed out in his last post, its fine that you like to use an AR, especially, kudos to your buddies who like to use it as well. But in the end, remember to respect those who wish to play within the legal limits of the game. Trying to trade others who play legally with duped, hacked or cloned pokes or gear ruins their fun.

Edit: One last tidbit to point out friend. Our guild's stance on hacking devices aren't good. Of course we allow members in our guild to use such, but when it pertains any events that we host, we are firm about not allowing any thing that is illegally tampered with for the sake making the enviroment online for our community fair, as well as making sure no questions at all are raised.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:28 am


I know for a fact that putting event Pokemon on gts is impossible. I've tried.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:34 am


Kyo the III
I know for a fact that putting event Pokemon on gts is impossible. I've tried.

What do you mean by that?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:26 am


ponygirl74
Kyo the III
I know for a fact that putting event Pokemon on gts is impossible. I've tried.

What do you mean by that?


This Classic ribbon is on all Cherish Ball Event Pokemon. This Ribbon prevents the Pokemon from entering the GTS and as such cannot be traded through that means.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:34 am


Kyrenx
ponygirl74
Kyo the III
I know for a fact that putting event Pokemon on gts is impossible. I've tried.

What do you mean by that?


This Classic ribbon is on all Cherish Ball Event Pokemon. This Ribbon prevents the Pokemon from entering the GTS and as such cannot be traded through that means.


I meant how is Putting an event pokemon on the GTS imposable? Can't any pokemon be put there or is it restricted to in game pokemon?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:40 am


ponygirl74
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ponygirl74
Kyo the III
I know for a fact that putting event Pokemon on gts is impossible. I've tried.

What do you mean by that?


This Classic ribbon is on all Cherish Ball Event Pokemon. This Ribbon prevents the Pokemon from entering the GTS and as such cannot be traded through that means.


I meant how is Putting an event pokemon on the GTS imposable? Can't any pokemon be put there or is it restricted to in game pokemon?

What he meant was that any Pokémon with a Classic Ribbon is incapable of being put up onto the GTS for trade, because that ribbon prevents it. Most, if not all, event Pokémon have Classic Ribbons, so they cannot be traded over the GTS. They can, however, be traded directly to a second person.

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ponygirl74

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:57 am


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ponygirl74
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ponygirl74
Kyo the III
I know for a fact that putting event Pokemon on gts is impossible. I've tried.

What do you mean by that?


This Classic ribbon is on all Cherish Ball Event Pokemon. This Ribbon prevents the Pokemon from entering the GTS and as such cannot be traded through that means.


I meant how is Putting an event pokemon on the GTS imposable? Can't any pokemon be put there or is it restricted to in game pokemon?

What he meant was that any Pokémon with a Classic Ribbon is incapable of being put up onto the GTS for trade, because that ribbon prevents it. Most, if not all, event Pokémon have Classic Ribbons, so they cannot be traded over the GTS. They can, however, be traded directly to a second person.



So they restrict it then. Wonder why/ It's already hard enough to complete the pokedex without the restrictions. Is it used as a marketing ploy perhaps?
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