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 Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:19 pm
Me - I'm pro-life I do not believe in abortions
Girl - Well...what if a girl gets raped?
Me - The chances of a girl getting raped and pregnant is less than .001, it doesn't happen.
Girl - Well..what if the condom breaks?
Me - Again, the extremely low chances of that happening means it doesn't happen
Girl - Well I know a girl who knows a guy who knows a hobo who told me a story about a girl getting raped, and the condom broke.
Me - Your story has an unreliable source.
Girl - Well, I still don't think you should be taking away our rights.
Me - Your rights to kill a child!? RAAAAGGGEE!
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:18 pm
Well, it does happen, but it is a very small portion of all abortions done.
Also, I don't see how condom breaking is an excuse. It's not like the objection is to having sex without birth control, it's to killing a baby. It's not less of a baby if the condom broke. The thing I love about the "What if the condom breaks?" question is that, when it's not a counter to "Use Birth Control!" it's a ridiculous out of the blue question. Yes, if the condom breaks, it really sucks, but it does not change the value of the child.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:48 pm
Though it does happen (even if low when taking precautions), it still doesn't make it right to kill another human being when both mother and child are healthy physically.
Also most abortions aren't due to rape, fail contraception/protection when properly used or life and death situations. In fact, abortions due to rape and life and death I believe is like 1% (I'm not 100% sure but it's extremely low).
I agree, it's not less of a baby/human just because of how it was conceived.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:37 pm
Thank you for addressing this issue, Z2693! I have been bombarded by people asking me similar questions. I believe that most abortions happen because people were irresponsible with their bodies or believed that pregnancy just wouldn't happen.
Does anyone agree with me on the issue that it isn't a child's fault as to how it was conceived? Rape was not the child's fault. All that would lead to killing the child in your womb would be living with the act that you are murderer.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:31 pm
Eternus Noctuna Thank you for addressing this issue, Z2693! I have been bombarded by people asking me similar questions. I believe that most abortions happen because people were irresponsible with their bodies or believed that pregnancy just wouldn't happen. Does anyone agree with me on the issue that it isn't a child's fault as to how it was conceived? Rape was not the child's fault. All that would lead to killing the child in your womb would be living with the act that you are murderer. I agree. Of course it's not the child's fault, how could it be? It's the father's/the rapist fault and they are the ones that need to face punishment. Sentencing the unborn child to death basically isn't going to help you forget. You think the women that didn't get pregnant forget? No, it's traumatizing and these women really need professional help, counseling, and real justice. Many are afraid that the rapist would come back and in some cases they know the rapist and possibly see them all the time.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:53 pm
Yes, it is definitely NOT the child's fault. So many pro-choices like to bring up the issue of abortion in the instance of rape, as if killing the child will remove the consequences rape brings!
And even if the condom breaks - too bad. Everyone knows artificial contraception isn't 100% effective.
The fact remains that life trumps everything else.
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:49 pm
Thank you both for agreeing with me that the whole "what about rape?" inquiry is a bunch of bologna.
Speaking of counseling for the women who aborted their babies, I have a little story to tell. I used to live in Southern California, near Los Angeles, where lots of abortions are done. I had a boyfriend whom I would walk to his bus at the end of each school day,and each time I would see a young woman clutching a doll to her chest. No lie, she was speaking and cooing to it as if it were her own. Later I found out that she had gone insane from the guilt of aborting her baby.
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:03 pm
Eternus Noctuna Thank you both for agreeing with me that the whole "what about rape?" inquiry is a bunch of bologna. Speaking of counseling for the women who aborted their babies, I have a little story to tell. I used to live in Southern California, near Los Angeles, where lots of abortions are done. I had a boyfriend whom I would walk to his bus at the end of each school day,and each time I would see a young woman clutching a doll to her chest. No lie, she was speaking and cooing to it as if it were her own. Later I found out that she had gone insane from the guilt of aborting her baby. I think that is a rare case but it does happen. Most likely they would become depressed. Even if they don't regret the abortions, the change in hormones from pregnancy can effect people. Your body and hormones change for a reason and when it suddenly stops and changes again, it's a lot for the body to handle. Though there is also a chance you can get post postpartum depression as well but I think it's less likely compared to sudden or unnatural changes.
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:12 am
Ah, the "rape exception" argument-- it validates nothing. One could almost say that an abortion in regards to a rape pregnancy is somewhat justifiable in terms of emotional validity, but the argument does not make a statement on the importance of abortion in society, so I don't know why it's used.
Also, remember, children aren't children 'til they're born... but I know people who support abortion and who are more than hesitant to justify later-term abortions. Emotional response.
The pro-life arguments are built on better legality than certain people would care to admit.
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:55 am
this is why i voted (if i could) Mccain, Obama supports abbortion!
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