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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:00 am
Not sure if you guys heard about this, but it made me want to vomit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm,_Ruger Mr. Ruger "The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the possession of high capacity magazines. By a simple, complete, and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining "assault rifles" and "semi-automatic rifles" is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item. A single amendment to Federal firearms laws could prohibit their possession or sale and would effectively implement these objectives." "no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun…" and "I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 and 30 round magazines…" And I really wanted to get a Ruger Mk III pistol.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:02 am
So then the 10/22 was a military rifle?
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:32 am
Fresnel So then the 10/22 was a military rifle? lol did he even make the high cap mags for the 10/22? I can't find any Ruger made magazines with a capacity higher than 10.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:58 pm
That's like saying that no honest man needs to go over 50 mph, and limiting all motor vehicles to that ******** hell. 
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:06 pm
Well, from a business point of view, Ruger just shot themselves in the foot.
Pun intended.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:40 pm
OberFeldwebel Fresnel So then the 10/22 was a military rifle? lol did he even make the high cap mags for the 10/22? I can't find any Ruger made magazines with a capacity higher than 10. I'unno. But they exist, ergo cocks.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:00 pm
Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel So then the 10/22 was a military rifle? lol did he even make the high cap mags for the 10/22? I can't find any Ruger made magazines with a capacity higher than 10. I'unno. But they exist, ergo cocks. Hmm, what? Ruger are cocks you mean? Ruger did the letter back inb4 the "Assult weapunz ban". Another thing; How about the 'Springfield Armory' toting guns supposedly made in America, when the parts of various guns come from Croatia, Brazil and Taiwan. : /
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:07 pm
OberFeldwebel Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel So then the 10/22 was a military rifle? lol did he even make the high cap mags for the 10/22? I can't find any Ruger made magazines with a capacity higher than 10. I'unno. But they exist, ergo cocks. Hmm, what? Ruger are cocks you mean? Ruger did the letter back inb4 the "Assult weapunz ban". Another thing; How about the 'Springfield Armory' toting guns supposedly made in America, when the parts of various guns come from Croatia, Brazil and Taiwan. : / That's typical Springfield behavior. The '03 was a Mauser clone.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:29 pm
OberFeldwebel Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel So then the 10/22 was a military rifle? lol did he even make the high cap mags for the 10/22? I can't find any Ruger made magazines with a capacity higher than 10. I'unno. But they exist, ergo cocks. Hmm, what? Ruger are cocks you mean? Ruger did the letter back inb4 the "Assult weapunz ban". Another thing; How about the 'Springfield Armory' toting guns supposedly made in America, when the parts of various guns come from Croatia, Brazil and Taiwan. : / Dunno, I've just wanted to make a 'cocks' joke all day, and I couldn't think of a decent way to end that sentence, ergo cocks.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:09 pm
Shrantic That's like saying that no honest man needs to go over 50 mph, and limiting all motor vehicles to that ******** hell. cars do have limiters on them... not @ 50 mph mind you, but somewhere around the 175 mph mark i think... but still... OberFeldwebel Another thing; How about the 'Springfield Armory' toting guns supposedly made in America, when the parts of various guns come from Croatia, Brazil and Taiwan. : / there are alot of different ways to skirt development laws... i.e., parts can be made in china or wherever, and ASSEMBLED (a more literal term of "made") here... or vice-verse... or the entire thing can be made in a seperate country, then inspected and licensed in America... hell, even if they put the tag on that says "Made in America" in America, they can technically say it's made in America, and then have a amendment in the fine print explaining it... the clothing market does this ALOT of the time... most "Made in America" clothes are really made in India or Malaysia...
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:59 pm
I find this quote a sad but meaningless waste of digital ink. This week, I purchased an SR-556 from Ruger. It came with not one, but three 30 round MagPul magazines. So much for implementing Mr. Ruger's wishes. And I have two 25 and two 50 round magazines for my 10/22. Those have been on the market for decades without legal challenge from Ruger. The late Bill Ruger was a fine man and progressive in many aspects of weapons development. He was a good personal friend to Elmer Keith. That alone makes up for this gaff. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_184_30/ai_n16741471/ If you're ever in Boise, stop in at Cabela's and see for yourself. His company does not practice what he wanted to do privately. Do not make the same mistake a lot of folks made back when Smith and Wesson tried to find some middle ground in the gun safety wars. A lot of people bypassed S&W guns just because they tried to add gun locks. Pathetic reasoning for costing an otherwise good company a lot of business and good will. I own S&W and Ruger guns and judge them for the right reason: they work.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:47 pm
Maddness91 Shrantic That's like saying that no honest man needs to go over 50 mph, and limiting all motor vehicles to that ******** hell. cars do have limiters on them... not @ 50 mph mind you, but somewhere around the 175 mph mark i think... but still... That's more like putting a magazine limit on 100 rounds, rather than 10. Which, is actually really very redundant.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:46 pm
Maddness91 Shrantic That's like saying that no honest man needs to go over 50 mph, and limiting all motor vehicles to that ******** hell. cars do have limiters on them... not @ 50 mph mind you, but somewhere around the 175 mph mark i think... but still... OberFeldwebel Another thing; How about the 'Springfield Armory' toting guns supposedly made in America, when the parts of various guns come from Croatia, Brazil and Taiwan. : / there are alot of different ways to skirt development laws... i.e., parts can be made in china or wherever, and ASSEMBLED (a more literal term of "made") here... or vice-verse... or the entire thing can be made in a seperate country, then inspected and licensed in America... hell, even if they put the tag on that says "Made in America" in America, they can technically say it's made in America, and then have a amendment in the fine print explaining it... the clothing market does this ALOT of the time... most "Made in America" clothes are really made in India or Malaysia... Mossbergs, with the "MADE IN THE USA" sticker on the buttstock? Mexico. @Floyd: The Ruger SR-556 is a Mini-14 ASSAULT RIFLE. It's got an auto sere in it. Not a civilian gun.
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:59 am
Fresnel @Floyd: The Ruger SR-556 is a Mini-14 ASSAULT RIFLE. It's got an auto sere in it. Not a civilian gun. Not quite... The SR-556 is a modified AR-15 with a piston actuated bolt. It is semi-automatic, but takes the full range of AR-15 parts, upper and lower (as well as all AR magazines including the 100 round Beta C-MAG). http://www.impactguns.com/store/BETA-CCM000-4.html Granted it wants very little in the way of options, but I can add them as I wish. It cost me dearly, but it was the best choice on the market that week. http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/sr556/index.html for all the details. Point is, Ruger as a company isn't doing what Bill wanted to do when he was alive. Stirring up negative publicity is only going to hurt an otherwise healthy gun maker. And we don't need companies like Ruger in trouble now.
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:41 am
Ubasti OberFeldwebel Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel So then the 10/22 was a military rifle? lol did he even make the high cap mags for the 10/22? I can't find any Ruger made magazines with a capacity higher than 10. I'unno. But they exist, ergo cocks. Hmm, what? Ruger are cocks you mean? Ruger did the letter back inb4 the "Assult weapunz ban". Another thing; How about the 'Springfield Armory' toting guns supposedly made in America, when the parts of various guns come from Croatia, Brazil and Taiwan. : / That's typical Springfield behavior. The '03 was a Mauser clone. That was a patent infringement case, for I think the safety mechanism. Was too much like the Mauser, and if I remember, Mauser won. You gotta admit though, that safety is pretty damn good. Since what was it? 1974 when they were purchased? It really hasn't been Springfield Armory, just a name. Madness; Yeah, quite underhanded. Fresnel; oh, lol
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