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 Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:00 pm
Hey there fellow magicians and curious alike , I made this thread so everyone could discuss their favorite paradigm to use. I myself have never tried it but I know a few friends of mine who have used the Morrow Wind paradigm quite well, I don't know the specifics of that one.
Discuss:
Paradigms
Paradigms success/failure
Paradigm advice for new comers
and pretty much anything paradigm related!
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:32 pm
I usually move between the scientific, Gnostic Christian, and Hermetic paradigms, and when I'm feeling silly, Discordianism.
As for advice, I would suggest something close to home that feels natural to you.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:23 am
Eh, I can never slip into alternate paradigms easily. I just use the four elements, and a vague idea of an astral Other Realm. Ambiguity of that sort doesn't bother me. I figure that as long as it all works, I don't need to bother with the specifics of how.
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:19 pm
Gaius Plotinus Maximo Eh, I can never slip into alternate paradigms easily. I just use the four elements, and a vague idea of an astral Other Realm. Ambiguity of that sort doesn't bother me. I figure that as long as it all works, I don't need to bother with the specifics of how. I'm not big on paradigm shift myself, I don't use the 4 elements so much have but have spoken to the elemental kings..nice guys. I'm not so focused on why it works either.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:55 pm
My paradigm is rather "solid" for someone who uses chaos magic, but to be that's because my paradigm includes all the facets I need and expansive capabilities. Largely my paradigm is Vaidika-Dharma "reconstructionism", so basically to most people, Hinduism. (Once challenged to name my spirituality the name was "Helelian Left-Hand-Path Vajrayana Vaidika-Dharma Reconstructionism")
From there it allows and ever expanding and contracting set of realities, entities, and godforms.
Now for more of the chaos side of some of my stuff, the only thing I've worked with a lot is the Wraeththu, and that's been a trip and a half for my mind.
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:19 pm
Hermetecism. I went to the bookstore and browsed the magic/occult section for something that felt right and that's what I got. So far I'm enjoying it and I think it will be very useful in building a foundation for working whatever paradigms I work with in the future.
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:04 pm
well I am closest to a Shavaite, I believe everything is energy and has some sort of intelligence and is part of the body of Lord Shiva. We are here because of the Lila, the love play between Shakti and Shiva, the energy of the body and the single intelligence.
Withen this I belive there is a great hosts of intelligences that both aid and hinder our dharma, the path to reunion with the universe. I am left had path tantric so I believe that bliss can be here on earth or the hermetic formula of kether=malkuth. I am learning to scry and plan on working in Enochian and in my world this is a excellent way to gain insight from other intelligences.
I could go on for hours and hours....
I am also a Discordian so everything is always subject to change whim and flights of fancy limited only by Truth.
For the Heart of A Star is a Beautiful Place 2 Bee.
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:06 pm
Ges My paradigm is rather "solid" for someone who uses chaos magic, but to be that's because my paradigm includes all the facets I need and expansive capabilities. Largely my paradigm is Vaidika-Dharma "reconstructionism", so basically to most people, Hinduism. (Once challenged to name my spirituality the name was "Helelian Left-Hand-Path Vajrayana Vaidika-Dharma Reconstructionism") From there it allows and ever expanding and contracting set of realities, entities, and godforms. Now for more of the chaos side of some of my stuff, the only thing I've worked with a lot is the Wraeththu, and that's been a trip and a half for my mind. wow you put all the big words on what I believe, I need more sleep me thinks it has been a long weekend. The Diamond Vehicle is a beautiful path.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:16 am
SoilWork I'm not big on paradigm shift myself, I don't use the 4 elements so much have but have spoken to the elemental kings..nice guys. I'm not so focused on why it works either. I'm not really into shifting paradigms either, mainly because my identity as a Chaote is secondary to my identity as a Hellenic. It's a good system, despite it's quirks. My workings are a lot less likely to be successful, but a lot more likely to be beneficial when they are. This is because I have many deities invited to each ritual, and each has sole right to veto any working I happen to do. It's a lot safer, say, to have Apollo as well as Dionysos overlook something party or fun related. Less alcohol poisoning, you know. xp
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:10 pm
Paradigm... uhm. Magical? General metaphysical? Religious? Philosophical? Is that supposed to be a single answer and I'm just overthinking again?
I'm apparently a philosophical Discordian, religiously patchwork, and magically a neophyte. Whenever I consider that something might not exist, the universe decides it's going to prove me wrong, so as far as I'm concerned the universe is just kind of there. Unless it's not. Some of my gods were semi-adopted from a pseudo-fictional paradigm that nonetheless somehow got independently confirmed; the other one showed up earlier this year floating behind the computer. One of these days I'll stop worrying about myself, I guess.
I don't know what the hell I'm doing; until about six months ago I didn't know magical orders outside of "New Age", Wicca-derived and "let's play with that neat energy stuff" existed; until I got invited to this guild I thought Chaos Magic had to do with revering chaos as a pure concept and had Cthulhu randomly inserted somewhere; and quite frankly I'm still sitting here stunned at what all the hell I've been missing with all these genuinely new external perspectives I can steal from examine in the interest of mutual intellectual gain.
If it's not obvious, I tend to stumble into the important things in life, and spirituality is not an exception.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:31 pm
Currently I'm in the Slacker Mage Paradigm. Everytime I get lazy or refuse to get a job, I become more powerful in magick. Plus I employ my own pantheon of egregores. I'll explain more on this in a different thread.
Thus spake the Slacker Mage!
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:14 am
midara the happy banshee It's a lot safer, say, to have Apollo as well as Dionysos overlook something party or fun related. Less alcohol poisoning, you know. xp
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:53 pm
Grant Morrison midara the happy banshee It's a lot safer, say, to have Apollo as well as Dionysos overlook something party or fun related. Less alcohol poisoning, you know. xp Due to my stubborn optimism, I tend to stay away Nietzsche. xp Do enlighten me, however.
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:56 pm
midara the happy banshee Due to my stubborn optimism, I tend to stay away Nietzsche. xp Do enlighten me, however.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:12 pm
Let's see.....I frequently shift between Discordianism, Satanism, Wicca of all paths, and Christianity of various denominations. Whatever gets the job done.
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