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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:11 pm
I'm working on a military RP guild for a friend, and finally finished the list of small arms I intend to make available to infantry/special forces/pilots and vehicle crews. I'd appreciate it if you guys went through and critiqued my list for me before I make it the finalized armoury.
Okay, so maybe the FN Five-seveN isn't that good a handgun. I switched it out.
SIG SG-550 assault rifle
SIG SG-551 carbine
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as25-e.htm
SIG-Sauer P226
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg09-e.htm
FN P90 PDW/SMG
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg13-e.htm
Vektor SS-77 LMG
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg13-e.htm
Sako TRG 42 sniper rifle
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn22-e.htm
SIG SG-550 designated markman rifle
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn24-e.htm
Thanks.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:04 pm
It's quite the selection you have there. I like FN as I have heard they have quality weapons, but the 5.7mm pistol cartridge isn't all that powerful.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:11 pm
Desert_Fox_Rommel It's quite the selection you have there. I like FN as I have heard they have quality weapons, but the 5.7mm pistol cartridge isn't all that powerful. I mostly picked the 5.7mm handgun because it shares an ammo type with the P90. Now that I think about it, it doesn't sound like much of an advantage. The P90 may be armour piercing (from what I hear, it is), but a pistol with the same round likely isn't do to lower muzzle velocity from a shorter barrel.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:20 pm
Considering many SMGs as well as automatics come in 9mm parabellum and have more stopping power it's not that big a deal. I've heard the 5.7mm is pretty close to .22lr in terms of qualities.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:23 pm
Desert_Fox_Rommel Considering many SMGs as well as automatics come in 9mm parabellum and have more stopping power it's not that big a deal. I've heard the 5.7mm is pretty close to .22lr in terms of qualities. I've never heard that. All I've heard is hat the British SAS uses it and claims it penetrates armour just fine. I've heard nothing about the round's stopping power.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:25 pm
Ubasti Desert_Fox_Rommel Considering many SMGs as well as automatics come in 9mm parabellum and have more stopping power it's not that big a deal. I've heard the 5.7mm is pretty close to .22lr in terms of qualities. I've never heard that. All I've heard is hat the British SAS uses it and claims it penetrates armour just fine. I've heard nothing about the round's stopping power. Then again, the source was Wikipedia. Don't know how reliable that info is.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:08 pm
"So this is how liberty dies..."
Obama's line of scrimmage is going to go around your house when he comes to take our guns.
Noice. I wish I had those. But you wish you had a mini-gun.
Then again, so do I...
"... with thunderous applause." Padme Amidala, SW Episode III: RoTS
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:16 pm
Ubasti Desert_Fox_Rommel Considering many SMGs as well as automatics come in 9mm parabellum and have more stopping power it's not that big a deal. I've heard the 5.7mm is pretty close to .22lr in terms of qualities. I've never heard that. All I've heard is hat the British SAS uses it and claims it penetrates armour just fine. I've heard nothing about the round's stopping power. You heard it here, then. Pure Taylor Knock-Out numbers, the .22LR is a 1, 5.7 is a 2, 5.56 is a 6, .45ACP is a 12. .50BMG is in the 150s, which is pretty ******** awesome.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:50 pm
I thought 5.7 would be closer to .22 like maybe a 1.5
Also to the point if 5.7 doesn't hit that hard the P90 might not be that good a choice. The MP5 has proven useful over the years.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:00 pm
Desert_Fox_Rommel I thought 5.7 would be closer to .22 like maybe a 1.5 Also to the point if 5.7 doesn't hit that hard the P90 might not be that good a choice. The MP5 has proven useful over the years. I don't know the equation myself, I was using an online calculator. I think all answers were integers, probably rounded.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:59 pm
I support the idea of the 5.7x28mm, but I'm also the guy that belittle's the 5.56 NATO, even though they operate on similar principles.
Hypocrisy!
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