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Silver Lm

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:05 am


Note: This post is just info of my connections between Wicca/Paganism to Christian
I had asked my grandmother to take me after I asked her of my curiosity of learning connections. (She knows I'm an Empath and believe in the Wicca religion.)

In the last week or so, I was asked to play my Clarinet for the Sacred Heart Church (Catholic). Last night the woman had me play infront of the whole conregation...

Now I am elcetric, but I'm leaning more off to the normal path of Wicca then doing this. (Losing the feel with it all...and I know more about original wicca and feel more connected to it) But when sitting in the chior section, it was intresting watching them. And I made things listed in my head that is like our own.

Christian | Wicca/Pagan
Conregation = Coven
Mass = Ritual
Prayers = Spells/prayers
Songs = Chants

Now I know there is a bit of us that used to be Christian but I was thinking the whole way through it.

At points I was really watching the Priest/Father as he would stand at the alters table, have his hands on the table, with his eyes closed. It looked like a form of raising energy, but that wouldnt surprise me as if he was connecting to God in this situation.

When Comunion rolled around, I had no problem connecting the bread to cakes and their wine to ale or wine. It's still the thought of sharing a meal with God on their side as well as it on sharing a meal with the God and Goddess.

There was songs that ended in 'Blessed be, blessed be.' And there was a line the priest said like "So let it be." Connection. "So mote it be." Just one letter difference.

As well, their candles they used, at the alter a tall white one. Those surrounded the room along with tall deep Purple one's. This time of the year is advent where the people are rising up energy and remembering for the harder times to come. Candle magic was tied in. And the priest was dressed in deep purple, as if some wiccan's would change colors of their robe (if they had one) when a certian point rolled around. Colors play a role there.

And I listened to the way they prayed as well, those are like ours...but when the priest was up blessing or as I would say 'charging the crowd' he would always say something that sounded like a spell to me. Like when he was blessing the bible.

"Father come and see,
see what we read,
this is your book,
for which your followers writen,
come see,
come see."

There was alot of points, more then I can mention, just listening and watching these people. But as he spoke, I could feel the people's energies rising up in either happiness or fear. When they were talking about Confession, I felt it hit a real frighteing stage for people in there...it was massive emotions, and I am still awed from the power behind it all. The whole time I felt as if I was gunna burst in happiness or I wanted to go hide and die from the thought of confession...

In all, this was an intresting experiance, not only to make connections, but to learn how they are closely like us.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:48 am


The real diffrence in the Pagan religions and the Christian religions is that we understand and fell the energies or connections between people during such ceremonies.

I believe, in the end, we all worship the same God; we just call him a diffrent name and worhip him our own way. In my heart, I know that God (father, creator, ect) will not condem us for believing in what we do, just as long as we believe in love in him.

LightOfTheBlade


Syndrama

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:56 pm


You should speak to the pastor about your revelation, he could prepare a sermon to educate his congregation about how similar they are to the people they believe they should shun. 3nodding It would be a fabulous learning experience for all.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:45 pm


kyrana kirri
You should speak to the pastor about your revelation, he could prepare a sermon to educate his congregation about how similar they are to the people they believe they should shun. 3nodding It would be a fabulous learning experience for all.
I have talked to him before, he thought it was intresting idea after I had talked to it. He said he would love to do it, because is own brother had followed the wiccan path and wished to get the sterotypes blasted out of the water. I talked to him after it and he actually liked the idea. so there just might be.

Silver Lm


Black_the(last)dogstar

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:54 am


Well the Celtic religions and Christainity were actually really blended together at one point in old Europe so it doesn't surprise me that they would be simalar, and thats really cool that you feel comfortable talking about Wicca with your preist. Most of the Preists around where I live would laugh or try to get me back on "the right path".
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:30 pm


Might I just say me friend, duh! They took so much from the roots of the Wiccan and Celtic ways that there should of been a copyright!

Celt person


LacquerMuse

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:25 pm


...Well, no. Christianity does have a lot of basis in older Pagan rites, but not the Wiccan ones, and not strictly the Celts. Wicca is very, very young in comparison.

But it is interesting, isn't it, how many things we have in common? I wish more people would understand that we really aren't that different. I agree with LightOfTheBlade in that we really worship the same God(s), but in different forms. (It's a good thing I believe that, two, as my school holds a service every week that is mandatory for all students, no matter what religion.)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:20 pm


My mum actually brought up the same thing when we were talking about religion just yesterday. About how we all worship the same god, but in different ways, and calling them different things. That's all well and good, but I also wonder where the Goddess is in all of this.

I mean, let's just say for a moment that 'God' is the only god, and people worship him in their own ways. So this would mean that the Christian god is 'God', and the Muslim god is 'God', and the Lord [From Pagans, Wiccans, etc.] is 'God'. But where does this leave the Goddess?

Does anyone get what I'm trying to say? Lol. I hope this diagram-thingy can explain better than me.

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S. Shark

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:51 pm


There are many likenesses between religions. My theory is that everyone has similar morals, but then their personal opinion on other stuff creates the various religions, in addition to some people's need to feel superior to other people for no reason with a thin veil of having an authoritive, all-knowing source (see--godbags such as Pat Robertson who use "God hates 'em!" to protest homosexuality).

Childhood Dreams: For many Christians, I believe, "God" is sort of the term they use for both God and Goddess, to encompass both ranges of the spectrum. In Christianity, God is the Creator. Though his title is masculine, he isn't necessarily all the masculine ideal. In fact, since he is the Creator, you could relate his creation of Adam to pregnancy and childbirth, and his love for humanity to a mother's unconditional love for her children. So, even though he's called "God", he's not God in the same sense Wiccans think of the God. He's both in one being.

Or you're right, and they just leave the Goddess completely out, which said sexist godbags appear to do. *shrug* Considering Christians and Muslims can't even all agree on what God says, it's hard to pin down their definition of "God" to even begin to guess.

Gwah, I got all rambly. gonk
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:05 am


That's certainly an insight . . .

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