|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:52 pm
Hi, I just have pondered a few things about people who want to rise up and try to get abortions illegalized...well it just won't work. Take the illegalization of alcohol for exsistance that appeared during the 1920's in Canada and parts of America, it just didn't work because people like beer, even policemen were finding it hard to confinscate something that was just so tasty. Anyways, illegalizing abortion will never work because so many women just find it needed to have the abortion they will most likely find some downtown shady medical hospitable and get the abortion there or maybe they have "connections" and get the abortion at their 'friend's, friend's medical district hospital.'
Those who think that once you illegalize abortion then it just *POP* won't happen any more also need to be more realistic. People break the law, that's why we have jails and rules.
..thanks for your opinions, I'm pro-choice but I enjoy having intelligent conversations with those who aren't. Please even if you are extremely assertive and feel a burn in your soul to yell at me that I'm wrong about this please refrain from basing your conclusions: using many swear words, telling me I'll go to hell, saying I'm some sort of sinner or refering to something religious; because it just takes away from the dignity and worth of what you reply.
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:59 pm
Of course it's not going to just go away-- but that's not the point. We have a duty as human beings to protect our rights. I'm sure you'll agree with me on that.
And the main right humans have, is the right to live. For me, the right to live becomes before the 'right' to an abortion.
The point about abortion being illegal is that it SHOULD be, because all other laws about death contradict abortion. In what other situation does one human have the legal ability handed to them to kill another person?
As for it not going away-- people are ALWAYS going to break laws, and sometimes they're going to do things that aren't good for them. Like do drugs, and such. But again, those are based on human choices, not another person's life.
But making abortion illegal is the only way to have stability, legally, in our system.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:08 pm
Mcphee Of course it's not going to just go away-- but that's not the point. We have a duty as human beings to protect our rights. I'm sure you'll agree with me on that.
And the main right humans have, is the right to live. For me, the right to live becomes before the 'right' to an abortion.
The point about abortion being illegal is that it SHOULD be, because all other laws about death contradict abortion. In what other situation does one human have the legal ability handed to them to kill another person?
As for it not going away-- people are ALWAYS going to break laws, and sometimes they're going to do things that aren't good for them. Like do drugs, and such. But again, those are based on human choices, not another person's life.
But making abortion illegal is the only way to have stability, legally, in our system. what do you mean "our" system, or to which system/country/city/..etc. I'm sure there will be a few countrys will disagree to this illegalization if it ever would to happen. Are you refering to America, England, Europe, Africa?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:10 pm
Our legal system.
Like, Canada, in my instance.
But I was trying to be more general because I don't know where you live.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:19 pm
A system that affords us the opportunity to be online discussing this, you mean?
Lol, sorry, I'm in autopilot. My mom is having early senility and I'm constantly trying to fill in her sentences or I"ll never know what she wants me to do sweatdrop
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:26 pm
Then again, murder will always exist. Rape exists, too! We should probably make that legal, as well. Yep, let's add that to the list! Female genital mutilation also exists. Maybe we should make it legal in this country, since innocent little girls will always have their most sensetive areas shredded apart, stretched open and stitched back up again, anyway.
Do you see what I'm getting at? sweatdrop
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:31 pm
Actually, at first, I wasn't for making it illegal. I might be some day, but what got me into it was the government stepping over the state's rights. After enough anatomy classes though, it feels like trying to condone the genocide to try and condone abortion.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:25 pm
lymelady Actually, at first, I wasn't for making it illegal. I might be some day, but what got me into it was the government stepping over the state's rights. After enough anatomy classes though, it feels like trying to condone the genocide to try and condone abortion. Yep; And, from what I've heard, murder isn't technically illegal nationally; It's just that all the states made it illegal. xd What I mean is, the federal government didn't make it illegal, the individual states each did.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:48 am
Lorysa Then again, murder will always exist. Rape exists, too! We should probably make that legal, as well. Yep, let's add that to the list! Female genital mutilation also exists. Maybe we should make it legal in this country, since innocent little girls will always have their most sensetive areas shredded apart, stretched open and stitched back up again, anyway.
Do you see what I'm getting at? sweatdrop noo I don't , I see you being extremely sarcastic while comparing apples and oranges, things that goon teh same level as those who compare every day life to Hitler and the Holacost. You're comparing many seperate and different things and if you think adding that with some sarcastic twang in royal blue colour added with a few emoticaned sweat marks makes your speech that much more impressive well it's not.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:53 am
Mcphee Our legal system.
Like, Canada, in my instance.
But I was trying to be more general because I don't know where you live. hmm if the illegalization started occuring (in Canada) I think it wouldn't just suddenly appear everywhere I think it would be attended to in each province individualy. I would think Alberta first concidering its notoruis conservatism.. I think that anyone who would try to medal in the affairs of natives weather it be in Yellow Knife or NorthWest Territories I think anyone who tries to place laws there would find many lawsuits and people petitioning it. Also between french-canada and english-canada if I'm not correect I think that french-canada is more catholic *not sure* and would be more forward on the illegalization while english-canada might have a different opinion.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:04 am
ka tana-bozu Lorysa Then again, murder will always exist. Rape exists, too! We should probably make that legal, as well. Yep, let's add that to the list! Female genital mutilation also exists. Maybe we should make it legal in this country, since innocent little girls will always have their most sensetive areas shredded apart, stretched open and stitched back up again, anyway.
Do you see what I'm getting at? sweatdrop noo I don't , I see you being extremely sarcastic while comparing apples and oranges, things that goon teh same level as those who compare every day life to Hitler and the Holacost. You're comparing many seperate and different things and if you think adding that with some sarcastic twang in royal blue colour added with a few emoticaned sweat marks makes your speech that much more impressive well it's not. You forget that to us, abortion is just as bad as rape and murder. In fact, from our point of view, abortion is a modern day holocaust. It isn't comparing apples and oranges for us. I understand it is for you, but if you want to convince us that illegalizing abortion is bad, you need to look at things from our perspective, not your own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:42 am
ka tana-bozu do you ever consider that even if something wrong is going to happen that you should try everything you can to stop it. Legalizing it to make sure that women can have "safe and legal" abortions is the same as legalizing rape so that it can be done in a "safe and legal manner". Just because it would be safer if it is legal does not mean it should be legal. Its obvious that people will continue to preform and have abortions even if it is illegal same as people will continue to rape, but that does not mean we should condone either one of them.
As for your statements earlier about us yelling at you or condeming you, you won't find that here. Rarely do we get into heated debates about abortion in this guild even when pro-choice people come here.
Mcphee are you pro-life or pro-choice? I'm so confused. Did you change your opinion again?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:48 am
I think Mcphee has become a real prochoicer. IE, He is for the woman's choice to birth or abort, and not just her right to choose abortion over birth.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:52 am
Pyrotechnic Oracle I think Mcphee has become a real prochoicer. IE, He is for the woman's choice to birth or abort, and not just her right to choose abortion over birth. No longer. He's prolife as much as you are.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:55 am
lymelady Pyrotechnic Oracle I think Mcphee has become a real prochoicer. IE, He is for the woman's choice to birth or abort, and not just her right to choose abortion over birth. No longer. He's prolife as much as you are. WTH, when did this happen?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Reply
