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witchunterobin Vice Captain
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 Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:46 pm
So I've read "Out of the Broom Closet", a compliation of stories, and have read a few Wicca beginner books. They all have something to say about angels in, and I hate this word, worship. I don't know if they are all talking about Christian angels or if they are actual angels from Pagan thoughts.
Does anyone know about this or have something to say about it?
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:05 am
Actually, in some ceremonial rituals, angels are called in as the four quarters, and as guardians and protectors. The ones I've heard of being called in are Michael, Gabriel, and two others (I'll get back to you).
I think angels were pagan entities before Christians adopted them. I'm not quite certain on that. But fairies, who people consider beings in a Pagan aspect, can be viewed as angels. According to Dr. Doreen Virtue, fairies are the angels of animals and plants.
It's not unusual to believe in angels and call on their help when Pagan.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:48 pm
The 4 are Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, and Raphael. Sorry to steal your thunder sweatdrop . I often Call forth the watchtowers though when I practice.
Edit: And yes, angels were commonly used in paganism before christianity. For example, the Valkyries of Norse. They flew over the battlefield picking out the soldiers who'd perished in valor. They would take those souls to the hall of Valhalla where they would eat, drink and be merry until they were called to battle once more in the afterlife. If they were slain in this heaven, they would simply wait until the battle was over, rise up and return to the hall of Valhalla to eat and be merry once more. This is a very bleak look at the Norse mythology. I don't have any of my notes near me, so I'm just winging it after a day of midterms razz .
But there are also the dark angels, the angels of death, angels of light, chaos angels, the starlight brood (I <3 my family, feel free to ask about their legions). The list really goes on and on.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:59 pm
No problem, thank you, couldn't remember.
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witchunterobin Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:02 am
So this is typical to find. Good to know, I was a bit unsure because of the wording. What is one thing in Pagan religions is renamed something else in another religion.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:53 pm
Some lady today said: "Oh, is your guardian angel watching you?"
I'm funny when it comes to angels. I believe in winged beings, but I do not believe in the Christian angels.
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witchunterobin Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:23 pm
Which is just fine smile Actually, beings that closely resemble what we've come to know as Angels are common in quite a few cultures. Take Dakini for example. They are from Tibet and are very similar to muses, in that they help their counterparts reach enlightenment (by which way is up to you ^_~). They're often very beautiful and almost always are shown with wings. There are also male versions, called Daka.
In Zoroastrianism, it is common belief that each person has a guardian angel, and in many Non-Abrahamaic religions there are sprits that derive from a God-source to help mankind on Earth as well.
And before I forget (and have to log off, stupid college library hours...), Hinduism has a similar entity called a Deva, which is besically a spirit of something (just as there is an angel for something in our culture, theres a deva for something in theirs). Deva can translate to "God", but can mean "angel", showing the connection (and little difference) between the two.
See, this is why comparative religion discussions are extremely important imo. They should make it mandatory in formative years...but thats just me being closed minded on everyone needing to be open-minded XD.
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