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 Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:28 am
Now, before someone jumps in with ninja stars and a light saber to start beating me with, please read what I have to say/ask.
I realize that Ms. Ravenwolf does not fall under the definition of being a "true" Wiccan BUT could there be some truth to what she writes? No, she may not be Initiated into the Wiccan religion but are her books more of a Neo/Eclectic variety? Or is she trying to start her own religion? She does, in some of her books, talk about Scott Cunningham and Gerald B. Gardner. Does she do anything right?
I have read some of her books as well as "Wicca" by Scott Cunningham (I think that's what it was called..). I'm looking at these books from both an unbiased and, I guess you could say, ignorant point of view. I'm here to learn, both from pagans and witches alike. I am here to ask questions in order to learn. If I come off as offensive, I apologize but again, I am ignorant on this subject and can not recognize boundaries I do not know exist. So please, be patient with me. 3nodding
Let the learning begin.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:15 pm
I want to hear more about what others have to say.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:22 pm
Going strictly on your question of is their any truth to what she writes... yes, some of what I've read by her on basic magical concepts such as sympathetic magic is true and usable as a starting point. Where she makes historical claims though I found she had a tendency to exaggerate and a times even invent without backing her statements up. Would have to get my hands on one of her books again to be more specific, gave the one I actually owned away long ago.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:22 pm
I think there may be some small grains of truth to what she writes, but it's not worth the effort of shoveling through the rest of her s**t to find said small grains. Most of them I think could be found in other books anyways.
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:30 pm
Who has Read "Solitary Witch" By Silver. I want to see if there is anything I can go by within that book.
I own it. I'm just wondering how much is truth.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:32 pm
There are some worthwhile bits about magic but nothing that hasn't been done better elsewhere. And don't believe a word of her supposed "history". I, personally, haven't made through a full book of hers. The writing style and the ignorance involved jsut turned me off.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:45 pm
CalledTheRaven There are some worthwhile bits about magic but nothing that hasn't been done better elsewhere. And don't believe a word of her supposed "history". I, personally, haven't made through a full book of hers. The writing style and the ignorance involved jsut turned me off. Thank you, The most of why I bought her books as to learn more about the magic. It seemed like an easy fix for some of my Resources but as I have found out it is missing a lot of information as far as herbs and other items. I am currently attempting at retrieving two of my older books which I enjoyed rather well compared to Silver's, Teen girl Aimed, Books. If there another source/author that you could Recommend?
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:30 pm
Lucas Moonrose If there another source/author that you could Recommend? Purely for basic concepts of magic, especially for someone just starting out, I'd recommend anything by Scott Cunningham, especially Solitary Wicca, Earth Power and Earth, Air, Fire & Water.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:48 pm
If you're interested in that type of paganism, Scott Cunningham and Raymond Buckland both have a lot of books out there. Just be aware that what both of them refer to as Wicca is not considered to be so by many pagans. I know a lot of people that like Buckland's "Big Blue Book" but I haven't read it. I'd moved onto more Northern themed stuff before I got around to buying it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:11 pm
I thank you both.
Each of your Sources are noted.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:00 pm
If she's not correct when it comes to Wicca, is there any truth to what she says when it comes in terms of Neo/Eclective paganism? Or is she just trying to create a religion all her own?
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:06 pm
Kymeara If she's not correct when it comes to Wicca, is there any truth to what she says when it comes in terms of Neo/Eclective paganism? Or is she just trying to create a religion all her own? You would be better off using other sources. It's not that what she writes about (for the most part) can't make a valid path. The problem is that her historical accuracy, and her ethics are pure crap. She makes everything seem like "ponies and rainbows", which it's not (and shouldn't be). If you haven't had a chance to read them... here are a few links that might be of interest: The Problem With Silver RavenwolfTarnished Silver: Why I Don't Recommend Silver RavenwolfWhy We Despise Silver Ravenwolf(thanks Vi for the linkies)CalledTheRaven If you're interested in that type of paganism, Scott Cunningham and Raymond Buckland both have a lot of books out there. Just be aware that what both of them refer to as Wicca is not considered to be so by many pagans. I know a lot of people that like Buckland's "Big Blue Book" but I haven't read it. I'd moved onto more Northern themed stuff before I got around to buying it. Cunningham is fine and Buckland's Big Blue book as well, however most of his (Buckland's) other stuff should be taken with a large grain of salt.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:33 pm
I thank you Sweet once more.
I had a feeling that there were some things amiss within those books.
I noticed a few flaws within them because I read Two other books before I bought those two.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:03 pm
ncsweet Kymeara If she's not correct when it comes to Wicca, is there any truth to what she says when it comes in terms of Neo/Eclective paganism? Or is she just trying to create a religion all her own? You would be better off using other sources. It's not that what she writes about (for the most part) can't make a valid path. The problem is that her historical accuracy, and her ethics are pure crap. She makes everything seem like "ponies and rainbows", which it's not (and shouldn't be). If you haven't had a chance to read them... here are a few links that might be of interest: The Problem With Silver RavenwolfTarnished Silver: Why I Don't Recommend Silver RavenwolfWhy We Despise Silver Ravenwolf(thanks Vi for the linkies)CalledTheRaven If you're interested in that type of paganism, Scott Cunningham and Raymond Buckland both have a lot of books out there. Just be aware that what both of them refer to as Wicca is not considered to be so by many pagans. I know a lot of people that like Buckland's "Big Blue Book" but I haven't read it. I'd moved onto more Northern themed stuff before I got around to buying it. Cunningham is fine and Buckland's Big Blue book as well, however most of his (Buckland's) other stuff should be taken with a large grain of salt. ....Wow. That just about answered all of my questions. xD Thanks! =]
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 pm
Can anyone tell me anything about Dorothy Morison and Gary Cantrell?
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