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With all the changes in the previous patches and the upcoming one, I'm starting to question if anyone at blizzard plays this game and just reads their forums.

One example is this unnecessary nerf spam on Beast Cleave... I will admit it is a strong team, however, it has been in WotLK for a long time and only recently being nerfed since the MLG tourney where it placed 1st... Yet PMR has yet to be nerfed despite the fact that PMRs have been fighting PMRs in the MLG tourney in the finals before.

Just one example and I'm sure someone will say something, but I'll be happy to back it up.

PS: No, I do not roll beast cleave... It's just one major issue that is being talked about alot.

sadly people at blizzard do play. a better question to ask would be in the Developers actually play this game. and i believe they do. i think that thy have been playing the game so long that they really dont care any more.

no i dont play beast cleave. i played Disc/Enh.

This.

Not just the tier gear, but the itemization in TOC in general. WTF.

i think the ppl that talk to us play the game but i the ones that design it and change it probably played vanilla then stopped.

PS, and I'll put this in big letters because everyone is ignoring the OP and just being dumb:

What do you suppose Blizzard does to nerf PMR without severely crippling the ability or playstyle of rogue, priest, or mage?

I've played in RMP and I've played against RMP. It's not fun for either teams. But it has been a while since I've played arenas... as RMP, all you went against was RMP or shadowplay, so it was boring. yo guys, I'm blinded. Trinketing. lol oops, I'm sheeped. Play defensive. Stunned. Broke the sheep this time. Nvm, sheeped again, keep defensive. Ohgodpriesthere. Feared. Ok, healing -- LOLWAIT COUNTERSPELL.

It's almost impossible to nerf RMP without crippling cloth or CC in arenas. Cleave already dominates 3s. No need to make it dom more. There's not really a need to nerf a team just because it places top or gets spammed in tournaments a lot.


BTW, Did you watch MLG Detroit and eMG's win? If so, I'm sure you saw how the opposing teams all plate setup got trashed hard while popping every single defensive cooldown in the book, kings & stam shout. That should never happen. I wish I could find a replay of it.

Mages are cloth and control is basically the only way they will survive. I'll be honest and say I haven't touched my mage in quite some time but most of the time if you breathe on them they die. Removing Shattered Barrier seems like the easiest solution but think of it from a mage perspective. If a melee is in your face, slowing you etc, the only way you can get away from them is shattered barrier basically. It would require pretty vigorous testing that I'm not exactly sure Blizzard (or anyone?) understands how to do. I completely disagree with the direction Blizz is taking the mage class atm, they're buffing frozen core a whole ton and making a glyph so water elemental is permanent (w/out freeze). I think a small start would be to stop ice armor from proccing frostbite & make it so it will not proc fingers of frost.

Rogues are extremely difficult to nerf, but I think a good start would be to reduce sap time.

I think one of the reasons PMR works so well is because all three classes perform magnificently together in 2s.

Priest/Rogue --> always a good comp.
Priest/Mage --> a newer good comp? idk. just know it works now.
Mage/Rogue --> again, always a good comp.

it's difficult to nerf synergy.

First, mages get ice armor... It's not much but brings them up. And secondly, mages do need control to survive, but blizzard has given too much. In arena mages are untouchable and make their partners untouchable as well. Also, to quote my hunter friend, aren't hunters suppose to be the king of kiters? Their whole survivability is based on kiting, yet a mage has far superior kiting.