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 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:22 pm
[So, some comedian was saying how every "race" has a drinking holiday. "Mexicans have Cinco de Mayo," he said, "and the Irish have St. Patrick's Day. ...Black folks have 'Fri-day~!'"
*gigglesnort*
I thought it was funny.
But is going out on Friday night to drink overrated? I know I'm not the only one who's done it, though. biggrin
On a more serious note: do you think enough is being done to prevent underage drinking? Is it really important to keep kids from drinking?]
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:36 pm
i know someone pulls this out of their butt every time underage drinking comes up, but French children have wine with dinner, and they turn out just fine.
i think it's not so much the prevention as teaching your children to respect the fact that drinking is not all about getting drunk, and that there can be consequences that they're not ready to face, which is why the age limit is there - it's expected (although not always true) that one will have gained a certain level of maturity by that time.
it's my opinion that the blatant 'NO' without further explanation and discussion always makes a young person want something that much more, and that's why folks get a little crazy when they're finally old enough to do something.
once again, it's partly parenting (that's partly)
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:05 pm
Underaged drikning - ah... I see it on two different levels... one for being the age I am. I go to parties and my freinds drink shot after shot of 180 proof everclear. I've gotten calls in the middle of the night cause friends of mine are in the hospital from getting alcohol posioning. I think that teenagers - and younger people for that matter don't understand the concept of drinking socially, without getting so drunk you pass out in your own puke.
I still don't really get the drive for getting that s**t-faced. Maybe an excuse to 'let your hair down'? Maybe an excuse to do things that you can't do when you are sober? I know I've joked around saying I was going to get drunk so I could
"confess my undying love" to this boy.
What is happening to enforce against uneraged drinking? Not a damn thing.
-Scenario one: Homecoming night, people get drunk. A boy passes out with no shirt on, laying in his vomit on the concrete. The cop comes by and says that they need to get him inside and get some clothes on him. By the way, the party is still going on up in the apartments.
-Scenaro two: House party with a lot of people. The police get called because the neighbors were getting upset. The cops show up and ask the kid throwing the party "how did you get so many girls here?" "you just have to move some of the parked cars."
I personally believe that police show up to parties because they get calls... they have to. I think that they have almost given up on trying to eliminate the problem. I'm by no means saying stuff like that happens all the time, obviously it doesn't... but yeah...
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:13 pm
Kaenai i know someone pulls this out of their butt every time underage drinking comes up, but French children have wine with dinner, and they turn out just fine.
i think it's not so much the prevention as teaching your children to respect the fact that drinking is not all about getting drunk, and that there can be consequences that they're not ready to face, which is why the age limit is there - it's expected (although not always true) that one will have gained a certain level of maturity by that time.
Ah... when I went to France for a short foreign exchange, I went to their school, and of course they were intrested in talking to me and that others... They asked if I smoked, drank, or smoked "the cannibus". When I said no, they were shocked. They asked what I did for fun... But, when I went into a bar [just because] we saw no minors in there... so!
I think that the element of thrill for the european teenagers of drinking isn't there like ours is, because it's accepted. Eh... There are going to be "bad seeds" everywhere... but America has had a problem with alcohol restrictions for 200 years? The prohibition... and the 21st Amendment... ah... I don't even know.
Kaenai, I really agree with your second paragraph... I hear parents tell their daughters, "I know you're going to drink..." And I have friends who's parents expose them to alcohol and get drunk with their mother... akward I think.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:19 am
Disruptive Kaenai i know someone pulls this out of their butt every time underage drinking comes up, but French children have wine with dinner, and they turn out just fine.
i think it's not so much the prevention as teaching your children to respect the fact that drinking is not all about getting drunk, and that there can be consequences that they're not ready to face, which is why the age limit is there - it's expected (although not always true) that one will have gained a certain level of maturity by that time.
Ah... when I went to France for a short foreign exchange, I went to their school, and of course they were intrested in talking to me and that others... They asked if I smoked, drank, or smoked "the cannibus". When I said no, they were shocked. They asked what I did for fun... But, when I went into a bar [just because] we saw no minors in there... so!
I think that the element of thrill for the european teenagers of drinking isn't there like ours is, because it's accepted. Eh... There are going to be "bad seeds" everywhere... but America has had a problem with alcohol restrictions for 200 years? The prohibition... and the 21st Amendment... ah... I don't even know.
Kaenai, I really agree with your second paragraph... I hear parents tell their daughters, "I know you're going to drink..." And I have friends who's parents expose them to alcohol and get drunk with their mother... akward I think.
not really gonna play 'get the last word' with you right now, but yeah, it's even sadder when you see that. i knew a woman who'd let her daughter drink beer with her - from her own can...
the child was 5
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:12 pm
hmmm i like to drink for a slight buzz i guess, but im not like a chronic drinker, i only drink like w/my brothers or freinds....to be honest i really dont likle alcohol
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:57 pm
Kaenai Disruptive Kaenai i know someone pulls this out of their butt every time underage drinking comes up, but French children have wine with dinner, and they turn out just fine.
i think it's not so much the prevention as teaching your children to respect the fact that drinking is not all about getting drunk, and that there can be consequences that they're not ready to face, which is why the age limit is there - it's expected (although not always true) that one will have gained a certain level of maturity by that time.
Ah... when I went to France for a short foreign exchange, I went to their school, and of course they were intrested in talking to me and that others... They asked if I smoked, drank, or smoked "the cannibus". When I said no, they were shocked. They asked what I did for fun... But, when I went into a bar [just because] we saw no minors in there... so!
I think that the element of thrill for the european teenagers of drinking isn't there like ours is, because it's accepted. Eh... There are going to be "bad seeds" everywhere... but America has had a problem with alcohol restrictions for 200 years? The prohibition... and the 21st Amendment... ah... I don't even know.
Kaenai, I really agree with your second paragraph... I hear parents tell their daughters, "I know you're going to drink..." And I have friends who's parents expose them to alcohol and get drunk with their mother... akward I think.
not really gonna play 'get the last word' with you right now, but yeah, it's even sadder when you see that. i knew a woman who'd let her daughter drink beer with her - from her own can...
the child was 5 What do you mean play 'get the last word'.... I'm not trying to instigate that at all... >.< And that is sad... really sad.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:18 am
Disruptive ...And that is sad... really sad. yeah - it was my mother-in-law. my sister-in-law still isn't quite 'right', and she's my age.
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