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 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:25 pm
Okay, so in English we were talking about the death penalty. Should it still apply to juveniles?
So, let's say a 28-year-old murders someone. They're sane, they know what they did, they were found guilty.
Now, let's say the same happens for a 15-year old. Should they get the same punishment? How about a 9-year-old?
I think they should. If they've gone through psychological testing and are at an age where they should know right from wrong, the punishment should be the same. Harsh, yes, but they know what they did.
So, z!CB, what's your opinion on this?
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:08 pm
Depends. A 15-17 year old is likely to know the consequences of their actions, but a 9 year old...really? For older teens, yes. That prodigy 12 year old child on CSI, yes.
But a child...no. I just can't believe an average 9 year old fully understood what was happening.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:15 pm
Shiori Miko Depends. A 15-17 year old is likely to know the consequences of their actions, but a 9 year old...really? For older teens, yes. That prodigy 12 year old child on CSI, yes. But a child...no. I just can't believe an average 9 year old fully understood what was happening. No, maybe not 100% understand. But if their parents have taught them that hitting people is wrong, I think they'd understand that if they were to stab or shoot someone, that'd also be wrong.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:19 am
The Ravenclaw Beauty Shiori Miko Depends. A 15-17 year old is likely to know the consequences of their actions, but a 9 year old...really? For older teens, yes. That prodigy 12 year old child on CSI, yes. But a child...no. I just can't believe an average 9 year old fully understood what was happening. No, maybe not 100% understand. But if their parents have taught them that hitting people is wrong, I think they'd understand that if they were to stab or shoot someone, that'd also be wrong. Not really. Stabbing and shooting people are actually quite different actions than throwing your fists/palms at 'em. They may just learn that hitting people in general is bad, not the part where people may turn out hurt.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:57 am
Gakre The Ravenclaw Beauty Shiori Miko Depends. A 15-17 year old is likely to know the consequences of their actions, but a 9 year old...really? For older teens, yes. That prodigy 12 year old child on CSI, yes. But a child...no. I just can't believe an average 9 year old fully understood what was happening. No, maybe not 100% understand. But if their parents have taught them that hitting people is wrong, I think they'd understand that if they were to stab or shoot someone, that'd also be wrong. Not really. Stabbing and shooting people are actually quite different actions than throwing your fists/palms at 'em. They may just learn that hitting people in general is bad, not the part where people may turn out hurt. Not really. The idea behind hitting is wrong is that any form of physical abuse is wrong. Kids understand that by the time their 3. Personally I think it depends on the circumstances. If the kid is young and murder another kid and the child comes form a home life full of abuse and neglect then they still need to be punished but clearly haven't learned what's right and wrong and have a high likely hood of being rehabilitated. If the kid just kills another person for the sake of doing it with no history of abuse and neglect in their home life (like what happened in my town) then let the ******** burn.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:22 am
 ╔═ ☮ ══════╗ Yes.
They know what they did, and they did it for a reason. Why shouldn't they get punished for their wrong doings?
And a nine year old not understanding? I've been around kids for years now due to babysitting. When I tell a three year old little girl, "No," she listens, or either cries about it - because they understand that telling "no," means they cannot do what they wish.
So, of course someone whom is nine should know hitting is bad, and the out come of trying to kill someone.
We are talking about murder ; not a little "oops"╚══════ ☮ ═╝» ☮ « And I swear, they think too much and feel so little
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:08 pm
It should be an option left to the jury.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:08 am
I don't agree with the death penalty at all (excluding some VERY extreme cases), so my answer is no.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:39 am
How they kill a person is also very important to know. On CSI a kid, maybe 4-5, was hugging his baby brother and accidently smothered him to death.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:13 pm
Divine_Malevolence It should be an option left to the jury.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:23 pm
My question is, who the hell would want to execute a little kid? Do you really think an executioner is going to be able to strap down a preteen and inject them? Especially if they have a kid that age? In theory they know what they did was wrong, but...who's going to be the one to enforce the punishment? Can you imagine the kid's parents at their execution? Having to explain to their siblings that their brother/sister did something really really bad, so now they're dead because of it?
Also, you have to keep in mind that our young brains don't fully develop until we're like, twenty. We still have some judgement and reasoning abilities to develop.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:30 pm
Shiori Miko How they kill a person is also very important to know. On CSI a kid, maybe 4-5, was hugging his baby brother and accidently smothered him to death. But that wouldn't be murder. The kid wasn't planning on killing his brother. I'm not sure, but I think that could be classified as manslaughter. Hermie - I heard today that in an execution they have several people push buttons, but only 1 of them had the poison for the injection. So nobody really knows who did it. And adults have families too. Their family will be in tears too. And the person that they killed also has a family. And even if our brains aren't fully developed, we still know murder is wrong.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:31 pm
It could depend largely on how and why the murder happened, but I think that in general juveniles should be punished in the same way adults are. They know what they did and honestly if there's a kid who can kill someone on purpose then, would you really want the kid around? The alternative to death penalty would be lifetime imprisonment but I think that a lifetime in jail is more cruel then killing them through the death penalty.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:39 pm
Hey situation in CA involving a juvenile who if convicted I'd have no problem knowing he was on death row.
So in CA if you start a wild fire (intentionally) you can be convicted of the death penalty because of the sheer amount of damage the fire can cause also it's not unusual for people to get caught in them and die D:
Well some 16 year old kid just admitted to setting to an undisclosed amount of wild fires every year since he was 13. The DA hasn't determined whether or not to charge him as an adult. I think he should and the kid should be put to death.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:54 pm
Vajapocalypse Hey situation in CA involving a juvenile who if convicted I'd have no problem knowing he was on death row. So in CA if you start a wild fire (intentionally) you can be convicted of the death penalty because of the sheer amount of damage the fire can cause also it's not unusual for people to get caught in them and die D: Well some 16 year old kid just admitted to setting to an undisclosed amount of wild fires every year since he was 13. The DA hasn't determined whether or not to charge him as an adult. I think he should and the kid should be put to death. Yup yup, I heard about that. The ******** was setting all those fires around my house, too! I think he should definitely be tried as an adult and put to death. He's not going to stop setting fires, no matter how old he gets. He will be tried as an adult eventually, even if he isn't right now.
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