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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:59 pm
Being a Christian myself, I decided to make this thread here. If anyone has any insights to the Christian beliefs, or would like to compare it to other religions, be my guest. Also, I would encourage conflict here, debate is a great test of faith and sharpness of wit, but I will see to it that any personal attacks will be reported to as many mods as possible. If you can't speak with intelligence and without profanity, I will go out of my way to stop your bigotry. I don't need another newgrounds quality thread here, I assume everyone in this guild is better than that. That being said, feel free to speak your minds.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:05 pm
I think the biggest challenge for most Christians is spreading the news about God's love. What do you think?
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:09 pm
I think the biggest challenge for Christians is to practice what they believe in. If you combine all types of Christianity and label them as one religion we are the largest one in the world. One would question, if there are so many of us, why then is there so much violence and unrest? The answer to this logical question is simple: Being Christian is harder than just going to church every day they deem holy. Being a Christian should mean they radiate God’s love, and God’s love has spread very far already. Therefore, one may conclude that the most difficult challenge would be attempting to be as much like Christ as possible.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:28 pm
That's true. People in other countries are dying, without ever knowing about Jesus' love. Christian's need to realize that they're not everything. It's not just about their salvation. If we just worry about ourselves, we've failed our mission completely. After we've been saved, we're supposed to bring other people to God.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:45 pm
I'm happy to say that I am a Christian, I just hope to get some people I know to follow God more then they do.... I know this kind of Contridicts my cult thing in this guild but that one was for laughs, but it's good to have a more serious one here. ^_^ I do believe in most things from the bible, the only things I don't find true are the part were they say that God said... They can not know what God said, and over the years the stories that have been passed down have changed... I'm not saying I don't believe I do... I just do listen to the parts about God speaking to the people....
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:55 pm
Neco Robin I'm happy to say that I am a Christian, I just hope to get some people I know to follow God more then they do.... I know this kind of Contridicts my cult thing in this guild but that one was for laughs, but it's good to have a more serious one here. ^_^ I do believe in most things from the bible, the only things I don't find true are the part were they say that God said... They can not know what God said, and over the years the stories that have been passed down have changed... I'm not saying I don't believe I do... I just do listen to the parts about God speaking to the people.... A lot of thought and research have gone into these conversations, many of them were carried out in the old testament because the holy spirit had not yet been introduced into the world, and it was necessary for humans to be contacted by God. Even then, only certain people were permitted such an honor, unless he was about to destroy those less fortunate. As for not understanding, God is very, very clear in everything he has to say. Yes, things have changed in the bible for a multitude of reasons, the biggest two are these: As new languages develop and other cultures are introduced to the bible, new words and meanings have to be made. The second, is that the Vatican is believed to have censored or taken away from the bible. I won’t firmly say the second is true, but many of my Catholic friends tell me this is true and I haven’t seen anything to contest the theory. Also, the stories in the bible that still yet remain can be counted on to be accurate, writing has existed for an extremely long time, a fact many people overlook.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:23 pm
Yeah, but even so I still only believe in certian parts of the bibile... It's not like God wrote the bible, it was someone else thousands and thousands of years latter after this happened... Many of the stories will be changed by now and I only choose to believe in certian parts. I don't like having other people who never even lived in that time put words into God mouth...
And I hate it when people who are againsts gays think that because they are God will hate them and they will go to hell! D :< That is not true, God love everyone the same and I have heared plenty of people that do not like gay ssay that... Sorry, just had to get that part out. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:06 pm
Neco Robin And I hate it when people who are againsts gays think that because they are God will hate them and they will go to hell! D :< That is not true, God love everyone the same and I have heared plenty of people that do not like gay ssay that... Sorry, just had to get that part out. ^_^ Yes, God does love everyone, even those who do not accept him. However, the Bible clearly states that only a man and a woman can be together in that way. Therefore, what homosexuals believe and partake in strays from God's will. Tolerating them in church, while it may be viewed as kind, won't help them in the longrun. I'm sorry. I know that the majority of people who practice homosexuality aren't bad. That's why, seeing people who are kind, who help others, who don't know of God...it hurts. sad
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:33 pm
Abyssia Holland Yes, God does love everyone, even those who do not accept him. However, the Bible clearly states that only a man and a woman can be together in that way. Therefore, what homosexuals believe and partake in strays from God's will. Tolerating them in church, while it may be viewed as kind, won't help them in the longrun. I'm sorry. I know that the majority of people who practice homosexuality aren't bad. That's why, seeing people who are kind, who help others, who don't know of God...it hurts. sad Actually, homosexuals never come up in the bible. The term homosexual didn't even exist until the 1900's where it was coined by a German psychaitrist who wanted a name for the "disorder" of liking the same sex. The only thing mentioned in the bible about people of the same sex together is in Leviticus where it says that "man shall not lay with another man." This is an issue on many levels because for one the bible mentions rules for men and women fairly equally so why is there no rule about women laying with women? Does that man god's all for the lesbian action? That seems a little off.
Second, if you're going to pull from that scripture then you shouldn't be doing anything else on that list which includes working on the Sabbath, wearing blended fabrics, and eating crustaceans.
If you're going to play the whole, gays can't have kids and therefore can't be fruitful card, then I'm going to have to toss my votes in with the Catholic church on the whole contraception thing. Sex should only be used as a tool of procreation and nothing more and if you use it you're not being fruitful, whether you have children already or not.
Finally, I think that sells God's "infinite" love short to say that he's biased to the form of love.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:08 pm
christainty is tainted with inaccurateness i ask some how they came to be and they say family sure or they say they saw/heard/tripped in to or punched the light but for some odd reason they felt it to be that worshiping jesus christ a man u were not here to witness would make sense because well i heard a voice in my head during my time of need. if i sound like i hate reglion its because i do i personaly belive that their is indeed some thing up their but if u dont see it how can u follow it to the point of it changing ur life. live life not the christen life.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:12 pm
The Chainsaw Ninja Neco Robin I'm happy to say that I am a Christian, I just hope to get some people I know to follow God more then they do.... I know this kind of Contridicts my cult thing in this guild but that one was for laughs, but it's good to have a more serious one here. ^_^ I do believe in most things from the bible, the only things I don't find true are the part were they say that God said... They can not know what God said, and over the years the stories that have been passed down have changed... I'm not saying I don't believe I do... I just do listen to the parts about God speaking to the people.... A lot of thought and research have gone into these conversations, many of them were carried out in the old testament because the holy spirit had not yet been introduced into the world, and it was necessary for humans to be contacted by God. Even then, only certain people were permitted such an honor, unless he was about to destroy those less fortunate. As for not understanding, God is very, very clear in everything he has to say. Yes, things have changed in the bible for a multitude of reasons, the biggest two are these: As new languages develop and other cultures are introduced to the bible, new words and meanings have to be made. The second, is that the Vatican is believed to have censored or taken away from the bible. I won’t firmly say the second is true, but many of my Catholic friends tell me this is true and I haven’t seen anything to contest the theory. Also, the stories in the bible that still yet remain can be counted on to be accurate, writing has existed for an extremely long time, a fact many people overlook. a reason for both of these to be wrong or at least inaccurate is because the bible of modern day is baised off of the old testament wich is indeed a difernt reglion call judism (my spelling sucks ) but how can u follow somthing that is a add on immatation
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:19 pm
senshixdoukeshi Abyssia Holland Yes, God does love everyone, even those who do not accept him. However, the Bible clearly states that only a man and a woman can be together in that way. Therefore, what homosexuals believe and partake in strays from God's will. Tolerating them in church, while it may be viewed as kind, won't help them in the longrun. I'm sorry. I know that the majority of people who practice homosexuality aren't bad. That's why, seeing people who are kind, who help others, who don't know of God...it hurts. sad Actually, homosexuals never come up in the bible. The term homosexual didn't even exist until the 1900's where it was coined by a German psychaitrist who wanted a name for the "disorder" of liking the same sex. The only thing mentioned in the bible about people of the same sex together is in Leviticus where it says that "man shall not lay with another man." This is an issue on many levels because for one the bible mentions rules for men and women fairly equally so why is there no rule about women laying with women? Does that man god's all for the lesbian action? That seems a little off.
Second, if you're going to pull from that scripture then you shouldn't be doing anything else on that list which includes working on the Sabbath, wearing blended fabrics, and eating crustaceans.
If you're going to play the whole, gays can't have kids and therefore can't be fruitful card, then I'm going to have to toss my votes in with the Catholic church on the whole contraception thing. Sex should only be used as a tool of procreation and nothing more and if you use it you're not being fruitful, whether you have children already or not.
Finally, I think that sells God's "infinite" love short to say that he's biased to the form of love.once more the idea that thats were the word homosexuality came is wrong its from genes code termanolgy such as homo being the same gene and homo being same sexual being (duh sex) add them together same ex sure some one may have added them together and said it to be a problem but 2 of 5 gay relationships are made because of failuring parients or even dramatic losses this is a satistic from a guy who belives that you live ur life the way u do and every things around u decides that. i have many lesibian and homosexual male friends but their familys and their life have lead them to this dispair and they took a look at simplicty of simulairty some even drop right in to if after the mere sight of enjoyment and just cant stop but continue
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senshixdoukeshi rolled 1 100-sided dice:
91
Total: 91 (1-100)
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:20 pm
The Chainsaw Ninja Neco Robin I'm happy to say that I am a Christian, I just hope to get some people I know to follow God more then they do.... I know this kind of Contridicts my cult thing in this guild but that one was for laughs, but it's good to have a more serious one here. ^_^ I do believe in most things from the bible, the only things I don't find true are the part were they say that God said... They can not know what God said, and over the years the stories that have been passed down have changed... I'm not saying I don't believe I do... I just do listen to the parts about God speaking to the people.... A lot of thought and research have gone into these conversations, many of them were carried out in the old testament because the holy spirit had not yet been introduced into the world, and it was necessary for humans to be contacted by God. Even then, only certain people were permitted such an honor, unless he was about to destroy those less fortunate. As for not understanding, God is very, very clear in everything he has to say. Yes, things have changed in the bible for a multitude of reasons, the biggest two are these: As new languages develop and other cultures are introduced to the bible, new words and meanings have to be made. The second, is that the Vatican is believed to have censored or taken away from the bible. I won’t firmly say the second is true, but many of my Catholic friends tell me this is true and I haven’t seen anything to contest the theory. Also, the stories in the bible that still yet remain can be counted on to be accurate, writing has existed for an extremely long time, a fact many people overlook. The words you're looking for here are the Nicene Creed. These and other edicts handed down by Constantine and others are part of why the bible is the way it is today. It is even lacking some of it's original books including one written by Mary Magdalen and one by a Greek scholar. It was one of the world's first censor boards really.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:27 pm
green fu man once more the idea that thats were the word homosexuality came is wrong its from genes code termanolgy such as homo being the same gene and homo being same sexual being (duh sex) add them together same ex sure some one may have added them together and said it to be a problem but 2 of 5 gay relationships are made because of failuring parients or even dramatic losses this is a satistic from a guy who belives that you live ur life the way u do and every things around u decides that. i have many lesibian and homosexual male friends but their familys and their life have lead them to this dispair and they took a look at simplicty of simulairty some even drop right in to if after the mere sight of enjoyment and just cant stop but continue I'm not arguing the etymology of the word, I'm talking about when it was first coined. I'm just saying that the word homosexual wasn't even invented until around the late 1860's or so. And my apologies, the guy wasn't condemning homosexuals, he was arguing against anti-sodomy laws and I'd confused 1900's and 19th century.
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:16 am
I have two himosextual friends and both of them are do not seem to be following in the light of God all the much. I'm hopping to change that or have some friends help them change. I believe homosextuals actually have more of a right to be together then an man and women do. They will understand each other more and if a straight couple that might not even like each other after a time because they can not relate enough to each other can be together, or even if they do love each other... Why can't a gay couple that loves each other be happy together?... I believe everyone has a right to, whether it says that in the bible or not, God does not care if someone is homosextual, it doesn't matter because they can still be accepted by God..
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