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 Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:08 am
If I am a religious person.
If I am a good person.
If I am a humble person.
If I am a modest person.
If I bring many positives into the world.
If I help others.
If I give to others.
If I don't condemn others and believe everyone has their own path in life.
If I love G-d with all my heart,
Why must I be a Christian?
What exactly is Jesus going to do that hasn't been done already in my life aside from "saving" me from a doctrine that I don't believe in to begin with?
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:13 am
... You just made me question my religion for the 50th time. XD
There is no reason for you to believe Jesus has anything to give you if you don't believe in the doctrine he saves you from. I'm not gunna come in here all "CHRIST IS THE ONLY GOD AND YOU'RE A HEEEEEEAAAAAATHEN!" Not even I know this for sure. It's just a personal leap of faith and a personal choice. Sure, if you ever wanted to hear about Jesus Christ and his love, I would be totally happy to oblige. But, I won't shove it down your throat.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:25 am
IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this.
I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that?
You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug*
Of course, I may be totally off here wink
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:32 am
Sanguina Cruenta IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this. I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that? You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug* Of course, I may be totally off here wink Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke. The whole "Serious Question" title made it so I had to pop some sort of joke about it. wink My religious belief is that believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior is the only true path to heaven. However, if you don't want to be a Christian, that's perfectly fine by me. I do believe that you wont be among me in heaven, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to try to change it against anyone's will. Like I said before, if you think you want to switch to Christianity, and you've made that choice on your own, I'd be more than happy to lead you along the way. But, you have to make that choice yourself. Nobody can make it for you.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:39 am
Ahkmill Sanguina Cruenta IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this. I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that? You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug* Of course, I may be totally off here wink Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke. The whole "Serious Question" title made it so I had to pop some sort of joke about it. wink My religious belief is that believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior is the only true path to heaven. However, if you don't want to be a Christian, that's perfectly fine by me. I do believe that you wont be among me in heaven, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to try to change it against anyone's will. Like I said before, if you think you want to switch to Christianity, and you've made that choice on your own, I'd be more than happy to lead you along the way. But, you have to make that choice yourself. Nobody can make it for you. Why is this acceptable? My religion teaches that all righteous have a place in heaven, that an atheist who is a good person is in better standing that a religious man who is not a good person. Why is this fair? It's intolerance, hate, and makes you look self righteous. It's not positive at all. How do you think I feel, someone who is a very religious and loving person who loves her G-d, when I hear this?
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:42 am
In Medias Res IV If I am a religious person. If I am a good person. If I am a humble person. If I am a modest person. If I bring many positives into the world. If I help others. If I give to others. If I don't condemn others and believe everyone has their own path in life. If I love G-d with all my heart, Why must I be a Christian? What exactly is Jesus going to do that hasn't been done already in my life aside from "saving" me from a doctrine that I don't believe in to begin with? Those all just happen to be common traits of Christians, having those traits however don't make you Christian at all. my dad is all of those except the first and the last and all I think it does for him is get business that his neighbors wouldn't get. So they are all just good qualities that will get you farther in life
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:44 am
In Medias Res IV Why is this acceptable? My religion teaches that all righteous have a place in heaven, that an atheist who is a good person is in better standing that a religious man who is not a good person. Why is this fair? It's intolerance, hate, and makes you look self righteous. It's not positive at all. How do you think I feel, someone who is a very religious and loving person who loves her G-d, when I hear this? I knew there was a reason I liked Judaism xd
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:44 am
tobiwants2cookies In Medias Res IV If I am a religious person. If I am a good person. If I am a humble person. If I am a modest person. If I bring many positives into the world. If I help others. If I give to others. If I don't condemn others and believe everyone has their own path in life. If I love G-d with all my heart, Why must I be a Christian? What exactly is Jesus going to do that hasn't been done already in my life aside from "saving" me from a doctrine that I don't believe in to begin with? . my dad is all of those except the first and the last and all I think it does for him is get business that his neighbors wouldn't get. So they are all just good qualities that will get you farther in life *facepalm/*
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:45 am
In Medias Res IV Ahkmill Sanguina Cruenta IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this. I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that? You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug* Of course, I may be totally off here wink Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke. The whole "Serious Question" title made it so I had to pop some sort of joke about it. wink My religious belief is that believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior is the only true path to heaven. However, if you don't want to be a Christian, that's perfectly fine by me. I do believe that you wont be among me in heaven, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to try to change it against anyone's will. Like I said before, if you think you want to switch to Christianity, and you've made that choice on your own, I'd be more than happy to lead you along the way. But, you have to make that choice yourself. Nobody can make it for you. Why is this acceptable? My religion teaches that all righteous have a place in heaven, that an atheist who is a good person is in better standing that a religious man who is not a good person. Why is this fair? It's intolerance, hate, and makes you look self righteous.It's not positive at all. How do you think I feel, someone who is a very religious and loving person who loves her G-d, when I hear this? Where did I ever say I hate those of another religion? Never. I think everyone one this forum is a great person for openly sharing their beliefs with others. I believe personally that things you do on this earth don't amount to anything when you are in heaven with the Lord. If you don't like the way I believe, just ignore it and go on with what you are doing. Or, if you'd like to share your beliefs in what happens to you after you die, I will listen intently.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:48 am
tobiwants2cookies In Medias Res IV If I am a religious person. If I am a good person. If I am a humble person. If I am a modest person. If I bring many positives into the world. If I help others. If I give to others. If I don't condemn others and believe everyone has their own path in life. If I love G-d with all my heart, Why must I be a Christian? What exactly is Jesus going to do that hasn't been done already in my life aside from "saving" me from a doctrine that I don't believe in to begin with? Those all just happen to be common traits of Christians, having those traits however don't make you Christian at all. my dad is all of those except the first and the last and all I think it does for him is get business that his neighbors wouldn't get. So they are all just good qualities that will get you farther in life I'm not sure you can say that those things are common traits of Christians without saying they are common traits of ALL people. Which is her point. She isn't Christian and doesn't want to be. She wants to know what it is about Jesus that would make her life any better, or make her a better person.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:52 am
Sanguina Cruenta tobiwants2cookies In Medias Res IV If I am a religious person. If I am a good person. If I am a humble person. If I am a modest person. If I bring many positives into the world. If I help others. If I give to others. If I don't condemn others and believe everyone has their own path in life. If I love G-d with all my heart, Why must I be a Christian? What exactly is Jesus going to do that hasn't been done already in my life aside from "saving" me from a doctrine that I don't believe in to begin with? Those all just happen to be common traits of Christians, having those traits however don't make you Christian at all. my dad is all of those except the first and the last and all I think it does for him is get business that his neighbors wouldn't get. So they are all just good qualities that will get you farther in life I'm not sure you can say that those things are common traits of Christians without saying they are common traits of ALL people. Which is her point. She isn't Christian and doesn't want to be. She wants to know what it is about Jesus that would make her life any better, or make her a better person. crap... I always seem to sound like an idiot here I'm sorry and you are right, there just happens to be alot of jerks at my school and it was 6:30 AM when I wrote that
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:55 am
Ahkmill In Medias Res IV Ahkmill Sanguina Cruenta IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this. I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that? You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug* Of course, I may be totally off here wink Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke. The whole "Serious Question" title made it so I had to pop some sort of joke about it. wink My religious belief is that believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior is the only true path to heaven. However, if you don't want to be a Christian, that's perfectly fine by me. I do believe that you wont be among me in heaven, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to try to change it against anyone's will. Like I said before, if you think you want to switch to Christianity, and you've made that choice on your own, I'd be more than happy to lead you along the way. But, you have to make that choice yourself. Nobody can make it for you. Why is this acceptable? My religion teaches that all righteous have a place in heaven, that an atheist who is a good person is in better standing that a religious man who is not a good person. Why is this fair? It's intolerance, hate, and makes you look self righteous.It's not positive at all. How do you think I feel, someone who is a very religious and loving person who loves her G-d, when I hear this? Where did I ever say I hate those of another religion? Never. I think everyone one this forum is a great person for openly sharing their beliefs with others. I believe personally that things you do on this earth don't amount to anything when you are in heaven with the Lord. If you don't like the way I believe, just ignore it and go on with what you are doing. Or, if you'd like to share your beliefs in what happens to you after you die, I will listen intently. So Hitler is in heaven? I do believe he was Christian. All righteous go to Heaven. Be a good person. There is no Hell except for those who are not good people, ie, Hitler and Pharaoh. In fact, I don't focus on the afterlife. What I do in my life right now affects my life right now. We should live in the present, not future. I think that if a Christian is only a good person for the promise of heaven, they are the biggest sinners of all.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:59 am
In Medias Res IV Ahkmill In Medias Res IV Ahkmill Sanguina Cruenta IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this. I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that? You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug* Of course, I may be totally off here wink Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke. The whole "Serious Question" title made it so I had to pop some sort of joke about it. wink My religious belief is that believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior is the only true path to heaven. However, if you don't want to be a Christian, that's perfectly fine by me. I do believe that you wont be among me in heaven, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to try to change it against anyone's will. Like I said before, if you think you want to switch to Christianity, and you've made that choice on your own, I'd be more than happy to lead you along the way. But, you have to make that choice yourself. Nobody can make it for you. Why is this acceptable? My religion teaches that all righteous have a place in heaven, that an atheist who is a good person is in better standing that a religious man who is not a good person. Why is this fair? It's intolerance, hate, and makes you look self righteous.It's not positive at all. How do you think I feel, someone who is a very religious and loving person who loves her G-d, when I hear this? Where did I ever say I hate those of another religion? Never. I think everyone one this forum is a great person for openly sharing their beliefs with others. I believe personally that things you do on this earth don't amount to anything when you are in heaven with the Lord. If you don't like the way I believe, just ignore it and go on with what you are doing. Or, if you'd like to share your beliefs in what happens to you after you die, I will listen intently. So Hitler is in heaven? All righteous go to Heaven. Be a good person. There is no Hell except for those who are not good people, ie, Hitler and Pharaoh. In fact, I don't focus on the afterlife. What I do in my life right now affects my life right now. We should live in the present, not future. I think that if a Christian is only a good person for the promise of heaven, they are the biggest sinners of all. Yet again, I gotta' bring focus to my beliefs. Those who accepted Jesus Christ into their lives are in heaven. Hitler is not in heaven, so you can rest easy. And no, he was not Christian. He could have claimed to be a Christian, but if Christ is really in your life, you're doing anything BUT killing millions of Jews. I also do live in the present, actually. I have Jesus, but my boyfriend is usually my top priority, because he's the one who's always there for me. <3 I am also a very good person, in my opinion. But that's not for any promise of heaven. I just do it because I love to be friendly, and making enemies is something I hate to do.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:02 am
In Medias Res IV Ahkmill In Medias Res IV Ahkmill Sanguina Cruenta IMR will have to correct me if I'm wrong about this. I don't think she's trying to get you to question your religion, Ankmill. It's fine if you're Christian. The question is more, why must ALL people be Christian? If another person is good, kind, etc... if they are happy in their faith, why feel the need to change that? You don't, obviously, at least from what you've said. *shrug* Of course, I may be totally off here wink Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke. The whole "Serious Question" title made it so I had to pop some sort of joke about it. wink My religious belief is that believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior is the only true path to heaven. However, if you don't want to be a Christian, that's perfectly fine by me. I do believe that you wont be among me in heaven, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to try to change it against anyone's will. Like I said before, if you think you want to switch to Christianity, and you've made that choice on your own, I'd be more than happy to lead you along the way. But, you have to make that choice yourself. Nobody can make it for you. Why is this acceptable? My religion teaches that all righteous have a place in heaven, that an atheist who is a good person is in better standing that a religious man who is not a good person. Why is this fair? It's intolerance, hate, and makes you look self righteous.It's not positive at all. How do you think I feel, someone who is a very religious and loving person who loves her G-d, when I hear this? Where did I ever say I hate those of another religion? Never. I think everyone one this forum is a great person for openly sharing their beliefs with others. I believe personally that things you do on this earth don't amount to anything when you are in heaven with the Lord. If you don't like the way I believe, just ignore it and go on with what you are doing. Or, if you'd like to share your beliefs in what happens to you after you die, I will listen intently. So Hitler is in heaven? I do believe he was Christian. All righteous go to Heaven. Be a good person. There is no Hell except for those who are not good people, ie, Hitler and Pharaoh. In fact, I don't focus on the afterlife. What I do in my life right now affects my life right now. We should live in the present, not future. I think that if a Christian is only a good person for the promise of heaven, they are the biggest sinners of all. true that IMR service and being a good person is something you do for the good feeling after you have done it, not the eternal glory that is just a bonus, for if we did service just looking to the future we would all be greedy and try to stop others from doing service themselves (probably if I'm sounding like an idiot again please tell me)
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:14 am
Ahkmill Hitler is not in heaven, so you can rest easy. And no, he was not Christian. He could have claimed to be a Christian, but if Christ is really in your life, you're doing anything BUT killing millions of Jews. This is a No True Scotsman, yes? I'm not up with the logical fallacies. Hitler was raised Roman Catholic and he supported the Positive Christianity movement. (Ironic title, no?) As I understand it he wasn't a big fan of Christianity as a whole but still.
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